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Old 30-12-2011, 03:23:20 PM     #1 (permalink)

 
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Van Finance Websites - If someone can help with value please

Domains For Sale:
I currently have the following websites for sale, they were used by me whilst i was employed by a commercial vehicle dealership, The websites GVF.CO / GVF.CO.UK / Vanfinance.co produce anywhere between 300 -600 finance applications a month both Prime and Sub Prime.
Obviously theses applications were used for selling our commercial vehicles, you could setup up with a finance broker average com is around £100 + per closed Deal, expect turn around on 300 – 600 apps would be a minimum of 10 – 20%
You could also add affiliate programs to the sites like we buy any van and also i recently added payday loans which have generated a few sales, some sites are taking the main share of traffic associated with their keywords.
There is a lot of organic traffic as well as i did advertising to the cost of £150 a month which you can see from the stats below drove a lot of traffic to the sites being GVF.CO / GVF.CO.UK / Vanfinance.co
Only reason for selling is a change of direction
Some sites are PR1 Google
Some sites require some SEO
I WOULD CONSIDER SELLING THE SITE CONTENT IF REQUIRED.
If anyone could value theses sites on the above info it would be great as really unsure what there worth is, apart from the money in the metal which would of totalled at least 300,000 over the past few years.
Many Thanks
Stuart Weston

DOMAINS:
https://www.guaranteedvanfinance.co.uk
BACK LINKS - Total links: 545
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Van Finance – 7.7
Guaranteed Van Finance – 8.8
Domain Age – May 2008
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
17,462 people visited this site
22,476 Visits
17,462 Unique Visitors
62,615 Page views
2.79 Pages/Visit
00:02:59 Avg. Time on Site
44.02% Bounce Rate
75.15% % New Visits
26.48%Search Traffic 5,951 Visits
66.32%Referral Traffic 14,907 Visits
7.18%Direct Traffic 1,614 Visits
0.02%Campaigns

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https://www.guaranteedvanfinance.co
BACK LINKS - Total links: 96
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Van Finance – 2.0
Guaranteed Van Finance – 2.0
Domain Age – August 2010
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
4,333 people visited this site
5,414 Visits
4,333 Unique Visitors
18,730 Pageviews
3.46 Pages/Visit
00:03:26 Avg. Time on Site
33.62% Bounce Rate
79.09% % New Visits
59.77%Search Traffic 3,236 Visits
29.57%Referral Traffic 1,601 Visits
10.66%Direct Traffic 577 Visits
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https://www.vanfinance.co
BACK LINKS - Total links: 793
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Van finance no deposit - 1.1
Guaranteed van finance no deposit – 4.4
Domain Age – August 2010
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
18,754 Visits
14,287 Unique Visitors
55,539 Pageviews
2.96 Pages/Visit
00:03:31 Avg. Time on Site
40.43% Bounce Rate
75.78% % New Visits
32.55%Search Traffic 6,105 Visits
54.42%Referral Traffic 10,205 Visits
9.65%Direct Traffic 1,809 Visits
3.39%Campaigns 635 Visits


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https://www.usedvanfinance.co.uk
BACK LINKS - Total links: 2
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Used van finance - 9.2
Domain Age – July 2011
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
182 people visited this site
210 Visits
182 Unique Visitors
912 Pageviews
4.34 Pages/Visit
00:03:12 Avg. Time on Site
42.86% Bounce Rate
86.19% % New Visits
57.14%Search Traffic 120 Visits
14.29%Referral Traffic 30 Visits
28.57%Direct Traffic 60 Visits


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https://www.vanbuyeruk.co.uk
BACK LINKS - Total links: 134
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Webuyanyvan – 9.5
Van buyer – 6.6
Domain Age – August 2010
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
1,675 Visits
1,533 Unique Visitors
2,871 Pageviews
1.71 Pages/Visit
00:01:09 Avg. Time on Site
65.67% Bounce Rate
89.67% % New Visits
7.64%Search Traffic 128 Visits
90.45%Referral Traffic 1,515 Visits
1.91%Direct Traffic 32 Visits

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https://www.valuevancentre.co.uk
BACK LINKS - Total links: Total links: 196
PAGE RANK KEYWORDS POSITIONS AVERAGE ACORDING TO GOOGLE WEB MASTERS
Van Finance –16
Guaranteed Van Finance – 4.9
Guaranteed Van Lease – 28
Domain Age – 2008
Unique Visitors over the past 12 Months –
10,025 Visits
7,727 Unique Visitors
32,170 Pageviews
3.21 Pages/Visit
00:03:03 Avg. Time on Site
39.24% Bounce Rate
75.44% % New Visits
58.08%Search Traffic 5,823 Visits
33.53%Referral Traffic 3,361 Visits
8.39%Direct Traffic 841 Visits
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Old 30-12-2011, 04:34:19 PM     #2 (permalink)

 
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Bottom line is what do they make gros , net how long they made it, tax returns, audited books etc (more you can back the figures up the better) most clued up companies etc would want these, without them you'd struggle to find a real buyer same as any business ... Some go 1, 3, 5, 7, 10 year multiples todays market you’d do well to get 5 - 7 years, Sometimes undeveloped make better because of percieved estimated income? etc Rather than that of the reality of developed ones...?

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Bottom line is what do they make gros , net how long they made it, tax returns, audited books etc (more you can back the figures up the better) most clued up companies etc would want these, without them you'd struggle to find a real buyer same as any business ... Some go 1, 3, 5, 7, 10 year multiples todays market you’d do well to get 5 - 7 years
Hello,

Thanks for the reply as i was working for an employer but owned the sites i would not be able to supply specific numbers in relation to the previous business so i guess the value would lay with the sites themselves and the potential to earn money via the finance applications generated and the any affiliate programs added.
All i can say reference the previous business is that 100's of vans were sold via these sites
Thanks
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Old 30-12-2011, 05:00:27 PM     #4 (permalink)

 
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Think there the ones your trying to sell are they

no site, revenue etc then
GVF.CO.UK mid XXX to low XXXX
GVF.CO seen plenty xx to low xxx
Vanfinance.co the. co is still jury out on these (some say crap some love them…) you'd need to research what other TLds, cctlds in the field have sold for, when, who owns them, are they developed etc
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Old 30-12-2011, 05:23:40 PM     #5 (permalink)

 
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Thanks again Namealot.

They are not generating revenue but are generating 300 - 600 finance applications a month so as good as, Those applications you would expect at least 10-20% conversion rate advantage finance would take the applications but would need manualy putting on to there system the avrage comms would be £100 per deal the only reason i have not gone down this route is the CCL was in the company name so i cant deal direct with that broker. Regarding .co prefix i have had good success so far guaranteedvanfinance.co gas a google ranking 2 position /pr1 for the keywords guaranteed van finance and van finance which is alot higher then GVF.co.uk

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Old 30-12-2011, 06:42:12 PM     #6 (permalink)

 
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If you go down the figures you have given lowest application route to commission 10% of 300 = 30 x commission £100 = £3000 p.m x 12 = (even giving it away at one years revenue) £36000 he .co without figures to back up ?????

If it can make descent revenue just employ someone else to run it and take a %? Approach the affiliate there competition etc or the dealership they’d know exactly what it made… if you can sell to someone else then why can’t you sell to them? Even if they low ball you think .co without real figures getting even a months revenue as sale price would be lucky especially on a predominately uk forum … good luck anyhow
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Thanks again for the reply namealot,
The company i worked the past 9 yrs have closed down as of November due to issues not related to my sites in fact it was my sites that kept the company afloat for the past 3years.
I understand what you’re saying about their value especially the .co prefixes without being able to back the claims without figures.
Yes these sites will make decent revenues but my financial position means i need to look at selling
Also i understand that i know the market well were as others will not understand the full potential

If anyone else could comment that would be really appreciated.

Many Thanks
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So you'd created these sites which belong to you, and you kindly allowed someone elses business to take all the money they earned?

Anyway, one other aside that people should be aware of - we have a car finance company as a client, and from conversations with them I'd be very wary about buying a site with the words "guaranteed" and "finance" in them.

There is the potential there to get into a whole world of pain because you cannot guarantee that you will give finance to people, whether they will get finance depends upon their circumstances and it is inevitable that some of the applicants will not qualify because their credit rating is shot.

You could come unstuck via a plethora of governmental and watchdog type organisations, and if it happened then it'd cost you an arm and a leg.
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Thanks for the reply a quick responce
I put the sites together whilst I was employed I was paid well per sale + basic
In responce to the guaranteed side we worked with a sub prime lender who will lend to anyone on a contract hire as long as they had a reasonable deposit. This arrangement would be the same with any purchaser of the sites if they wished.
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...will lend to anyone on a contract hire as long as they had a reasonable deposit...
Thanks Stuart
And if they don't have a reaonable deposit they won't lend, ergo it is not guaranteed.
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