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Old 04-07-2007, 08:08:28 PM     #1 (permalink)

 
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DRS consultation - outcome

Well, it's been online for several hours now and nobody has mentioned it...

Here is the outcome of the DRS consultation:

http://www.nic.uk/digitalAssets/2083...aper_final.pdf

Makes interesting reading. I'm going to need to read it again tomorrow before commenting.

In the mean time, perhaps this would be of assistance

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I agreed

Although tomorrow I am doubtful we will be any the wiser

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Shocking reading - £10 for a complainant to 'have a pop' and as a result having a 70% chance of winning the domain by default - sickening!

And that's not all...
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Shocking reading - £10 for a complainant to 'have a pop' and as a result having a 70% chance of winning the domain by default - sickening!

And that's not all...
cheaper than dropcatching. And the stats are better.
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Well £10 is better than it being free... but is the £750 still in place when a domain holder responds?

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So am I right in thinking that if I pay £10 and initiate a DRS on a domain and my main argument is 'I want it because its a nice domain' and the owner doesnt respond I can then pay £200 and get the domain transfered !?!

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Anyone see what would stop the technique:

1. Find an attractive domain where contacts are out of date/owner does not respond to contact [mineable - existing domains becoming Suspended would indicate the owner is AWOL, you then try and contact to buy nice-domain and get nothing in reply],

2. You file a £10 DRS with a view to getting a default xfer,

3. You obtain default transfer as no response from Registrant (would any evidence be required?)

The default-transfer mandated process, without an expert to regulate, might cause a lot of prospective £10 DRS cases - common sense would throw them out - but how are they dealt with in the proposed process?

Hoping I am missing something simple, or has it not been thought through?
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cheaper than dropcatching. And the stats are better.
...exactly!

£210 for a 70% chance of getting some prime generics - nice

It's an easy way also to have a go at crippling your competitor for a tenner for at least a month if they don't reply, or in time!
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I don't understand, it's £200 if there's no response... £100 if the domain goes to default and the domain holder wishes to show they never got forms and wish to fight, domain holder pays £100... so how much if the defendent responds?

Still £200? so the price of domains just fell £550, nominet is out to wipe many low domainers out. Nominet set the barrier figure of resale domains at £750 and whilst knocking out deleting have just lowered the bar to £200... nice.

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...exactly!

£210 for a 70% chance of getting some prime generics - nice

It's an easy way also to have a go at crippling your competitor for a tenner for at least a month if they don't reply, or in time!
Revised. Pay a tenner, get no response, pay £200 for the domain and a decision which if you can claim good enough rights it's then yours for £200. Someone clearly aint got a danny on how this all works (probably me), this decision, if correct is as stupid as the persons who closed deleting!

It can't be right, maybe someone who understands English can write out the document including what stands and what's gone. I think the £750 still stands, it's got to, the £200 is just for the default transfer. Any other way is sheer madness. I'm going to bed, I'll read it in the morning as I've clearly misread it.

The proper detailed new format arrives in August, debate until then... appeal fees still stand at £3000? so the £750 has to remain. Before I go, yes pay £10, no response, get a domain for £200 after bad decision - so hit a pro domainer very hard with 1000 requests, then pick whatever your want as you know they aint got a chance of fighting them all at once, then clean up and resell directly after.

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