EdPhillips

Well, its worth remembering that Nominet do some checks before accepting a transfer, and the transfer still has to be signed by the registrant (as listed in the "for" field that the tag-holder can't change). So there is some protection for .uk registrants in these sorts of cases, as even if someone has pursuaded your tag-holder to 'push' the tag over to someone else, the domain name still is listed in your name and they will have to trick Nominet too to change that.

admin

Thank you for your input Ed.

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ratboy

How do Nominet know what my signature looks like? I've never signed anything when I have registered a domain only when i sell.

I could sign it MickyMouse and it may/maynot be my real signature.

Johnny

invincible

I've always wondered about that one too.

FWIW shopping.co.uk was once stolen by someone. I won't explain exactly how. However I and another couple of others knew it had happened. We figured out who'd done it (he wasn't smart enough to cover all of his tracks). We reported it to Nominet and they said it couldn't possibly happen. Obviously we were bitter because we'd missed out on it potentially dropping. It stayed with the thief for a while and then suddenly went to suspended status (someone else reported the incident, we think). After a while it was transferred to the current registrant who purchased it from the legitimate former registrant (the current registrant is legitimate. ). I chatted to Nominet management later on about it and sensed the embaressment.

The secure way to manage your names is to get your own tag and retag all of the domain names that you are responsible for to it. That way nobody else can push your names elsewhere. If someone does manage to fake a transfer via Nominet, paying £15 or whatever the charge is, you'll get an email warning you about the pending tag change before it actually occurs.

singlefile

My registrar couldn't find the fax that they claim to have received, instructing them to change the TAG.

I said that I was not prepared to pay the fee to Nominet £15+VAT to have the TAG changed back to them ... I said that if I had to suffer the fee that I would seek recompense for all calculable loss, via Small Claims.

My registrar therefore thence offered to let me have 3Nr free renewals, which exceeds the £15+VAT, so I decided to accept that and leave it there, as far as any action against my registrar was concerned.

I now have complete control of the name.

I've sent an email to the .com owner, enquiring as to the reasons for his behaviour and assuring him that I shall 'kick his '@rse;' over this, in polite and legally sound figures of speech of course...

I'm not going to let this go and will now proceed to phase two: report to the Police, obtain a Crime Ref Nr etc. etc.

domaingenius

Hmm so you told him in advance that he is going to be getting a visit. And what do you think he will do in the meanwhile ,get rid of any evidence etc .

dg

singlefile

I've got the whois print out, showing the name on his tag and not mine, whilst my name is still shown as the registrant, I have copies of my resultant correspondence with Nominet and also from his registrar, confirming his identity and that he'd had my name tagged with them and controlled via tha account that he has with them, whilst it was still mine.

I doubt the police would do a dawn raid on his home over this, also so he's most likely binned/shredded anything that he had as soon as his registrar informed him of the Tag change for a name in his account.

I'm sure that you'll appreciate that he won't be able to get rid of the large amount of evidence that is outside of his control/reach so there's more than enough rope for me to hang him with methinks ...

domaingenius

Is it worth the hassle is another matter to consider.

DG

singlefile

Agreed DG.

Legal shenanigans are often not worth the effort. I'll probably get just as much satisfaction by phoning him up, revealing the full extent of my knowledge of him and then simply straightening one or two things out fully and finally over the 'phone.

I do have quick and free access to legal advice so I'll have to think it over over the next few weeks I guess, prior to making my move.

domaingenius

Believe me,I KNOW !. What you find is that the Police will
come around and probably they'll say theyve gotta take your computer etc etc etc, it aint worth it. Just tell him that next time he tries such a trick you will report him.

dg