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Old 19-02-2008, 04:59 PM   #1

 
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Flowery strike....

Anyone else had Inter flora breathing down your neck?

I thought they might - but for £15 was worth a small chance I could sneak it through.

Can't believe they are so stupid as to let the names expire in the first place but then to send through a nice little 'it's a trademark' letter seems a complete watse of everyone's time.

Any ideas... anyone think ofa nice little pseudonym for inter flora florist
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Old 19-02-2008, 06:18 PM   #2

 
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Im sorry, I have no idea what you post is on about?
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Old 19-02-2008, 06:45 PM   #3

 
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"Interfl0ra" as a brand... those geezers that you go to send flowers to loved ones when you've forgotten their birthday!!

I picked up drops :

interfl0raflorists [couk]
interfl0raflorist [couk]
interfl0radirect [couk]

a few weeks back and got a lovely stop using cos it's our brand.

Just wondered if anyone has experience with them before... i am not using / parking at the mo they resolve no where

Sorry I probably didn't make that very clear did I? Been a long and bad day so far!
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Old 20-02-2008, 05:53 PM   #4
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tell them they can have them all for an admin fee of £115 plus the transfer fee's. its cheaper for them than using their solicitors and you make a ton for your trouble.
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tell them they can have them all for an admin fee of £115 plus the transfer fee's. its cheaper for them than using their solicitors and you make a ton for your trouble.
LOL - mind reader or what. I was just penning a lette to them along those lines... just wondered if anyone else has had a specific issue with this company

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Old 21-02-2008, 04:22 PM   #6
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it was a lesson I learnt a long time ago, if you offer to sell them back the domains for less than their legal fees will cost them to take them off of you companies will often do it. some reasons they do it are

1) cost saving
2) face saving, how bad do they look spending a few grand on lawyers to take a couple of domains off of you when you tell the press that you offered to let them have the domains if they covered your reasonable admin costs of one or two hundred pounds.
3) if they cough up they get the domains quicker

and lets be honest if you can buy something for a couple of quid and sell it on for a couple of hundred with little or no effort who are you to complain
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Old 21-02-2008, 04:34 PM   #7

 
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Hey Remoh...

Yep exactly... £15 to £450 odd is good business in my books.

The letter wasn't too harsh to be honest - had worse in the past that was completely unsubstantiated in it's claims.

Here - I can't really argue to be honest
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it was a lesson I learnt a long time ago, if you offer to sell them back the domains for less than their legal fees will cost them to take them off of you companies will often do it. some reasons they do it are

1) cost saving
2) face saving, how bad do they look spending a few grand on lawyers to take a couple of domains off of you when you tell the press that you offered to let them have the domains if they covered your reasonable admin costs of one or two hundred pounds.
3) if they cough up they get the domains quicker

and lets be honest if you can buy something for a couple of quid and sell it on for a couple of hundred with little or no effort who are you to complain
Speaking from experience - the problems arise when they don't care about the above points and want to make an example of you by going for damages and all legal costs. The domains that may be making you a few £'s per month could end up costing you £xx,xxx +

Unless these domains are making you £thousands a month is it really worth the risk??

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Old 21-02-2008, 05:57 PM   #9
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they best way is if they send a give us back our domain letter you tell them they can have it for the admin costs if they then send you a threatening letter you reply stating that you feel your admin fee is fair and reasonable and then if they threaten again give in and walk away. Dont drag it out to the point where they issue a writ but dont cave in at the first email. If you cave in after 3 or 4 emails they would be hard pushed to get you to court for damages & costs as you can claim you were verifying their legal right to the domain and when you discovered they had a legal right to it you handed it over
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I completely agree with Grant.

I may be wrong but I don't think that these will be earning that much revenue so why take the risk of losing money in damages.

This isn't the best way to do business - and they are obvious trademarks

You'll also find that some companies especially larger ones have legal departments or legal firms on contract, and so it doesn't cost them each time they send a letter. So the strategy that it'll cost 'em too much to pursue you really doesn't hold.

My advice is avoid legal trouble unless:

1. potential payoff is massive in the end
2. payoffs during the legal trouble are considerable (click revenue)
3. the domain is valuable to you and there isn't a clear trademark violation

I started in a similar way but realized that I could make more money if I focused my energy on other types of domains (and avoided domains like this).

Why would you want to risk £5000 for revenues of £2.37, £1.81 and £4.05 for the next 3 months?

If the revenues for the domains are low xxx to xxxx ignore everything I said here!
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