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Old 09-09-2008, 11:55:51 PM     #81 (permalink)
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As soon as the owner has a reply back from Nominets top solicitor I have suggested we publish it and any reply he makes here.

Do you think that is a good idea?

Or would it damage an ongoing relationship, although the way things have gone I dont know that, that relationship is worth worrying about??
Please do not publish anything legal here without checking with me first, I am a Nominet member and need to respect any confidentiality clauses such correspondence may carry.

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I don't understand why the respondent isn't working on re-branding his investment.
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Hi Phillip, first point would have to be, why should they? I understand being practicable but principles at stake.

I haven't read much of the point of the DRS on this and the £100k sale on sedo says that all parties in this may be a bit bonkers. But from what has been said the domain was registered well before the talent show was commissioned.

The DRS system is corrupt and should be handled by totally independent agency, not nominet and not people in nominet who subscribe to nominet's internal politics.

It's job's for the boys I'm afraid and I'd take them to court if I was you, take them to the small claims court to start with although you'll have to limit any claim to less than 5k for the name, otherwise if you lose you will have to pay nominets court costs.

For less than a hundred quid you can have your day in court, you might not win but you'll be able to air your grievances. Show the previous decisions that Nominet have come too and you may have a chance.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:53:19 AM     #83 (permalink)
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Is acorn a good venue for making public the woes of the DRS? I think all here knows the good and bad already
Rob can you enlarge on this or pm me?

I thought Acorn would be a perfect venue to keep people up to speed with what actually happens in one of these cases as so much is not in the public domain. It gives coverage to the ongoing struggle in this case and it might help others in the future if they can use ANYTHING here as a precedent to help them win their cases?
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I don't understand why the respondent isn't working on re-branding his investment.

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Philipp this has been mentioned before but the whole argument here is who owns the name britainsgottalent.co.uk. This name was chosen for an original online talent agency, Fremantle knew the name was registered and they knew the site was in development. They have schemed, used and manipulated the Nominet system.

The "Expert" decision is totally one-sided and she has found on the basis that an imaginary income has been made, (even although she had a signed statement that no monies had been made by the sites owners) and when if she would have tried to actually complete the process she relies on for her decision she would have found out it could not be done and NOTHING has been made.

This finding if allowed to go on makes a complete mockery of Nominet and the way the public and independent Nominet members actually feel about an in-house procedure that cannot remain neutral.

When the Editor of The Times newspaper came out and said their accusation against the owner was a LIE. Why were they not found GUILTY of making a claim in "BAD FAITH" and the decision made for the owner??.

The idea predates the show by 18 months, the registration predates the show by a year - So please dont anyone else suggest this, if you knew some of the things that went on you would realise just how dirty big business is in the UK.

This show was originally going to be called Paul O'Grady's Got Talent - How successful do you think it would have been then, and why was it changed??

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Admin I think if he came back and was going to intervene there might be come confidentiality to be concerned with, however if there is a negative response I dont how this could be an issue but it may give some insight into just how transparent, independent, or neutral Nominet really are?

I'm intent in getting as much of this as possible out in the open and if it doesnt help us, it might help SOMEONE else.

NO - After everything that these people have done, I'm all for publish and be damned!!

This country still has freedom of speech - right???

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Hi Phillip, first point would have to be, why should they? I understand being practicable but principles at stake.

I haven't read much of the point of the DRS on this and the £100k sale on sedo says that all parties in this may be a bit bonkers. But from what has been said the domain was registered well before the talent show was commissioned.

The DRS system is corrupt and should be handled by totally independent agency, not nominet and not people in nominet who subscribe to nominet's internal politics.

It's job's for the boys I'm afraid and I'd take them to court if I was you, take them to the small claims court to start with although you'll have to limit any claim to less than 5k for the name, otherwise if you lose you will have to pay nominets court costs.

For less than a hundred quid you can have your day in court, you might not win but you'll be able to air your grievances. Show the previous decisions that Nominet have come too and you may have a chance.

GreyWing; THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

Not sure about a lot of stuff here but if thats the way people think of Nominet then after what the owner had gone through I'm not surprised.

However your bang on with the most imprtant part of all - Why should they!!!

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Admin I think if he came back and was going to intervene there might be come confidentiality to be concerned with, however if there is a negative response I dont how this could be an issue but it may give some insight into just how transparent, independent, or neutral Nominet really are?

I'm intent in getting as much of this as possible out in the open and if it doesnt help us, it might help SOMEONE else.

After everything that these people have done, I'm all for publish and be damned!!

This country still has freedom of speech - right???
I can be held legally responsible for any information published here as the "publisher", and I don't intend to spend my money defending anything you post knowing it may invite legal action against me or AD.

I suggest you set up your own blog and publish it there.

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Old 10-09-2008, 08:33:42 AM     #88 (permalink)
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I suggest you set up your own blog and publish it there.
I would fully agree with that as it would allow you greater freedom to post materials relating to the case.

You can then post on forums, news sites etc to get 'word out' regarding it.

Please bear in mind this is a sales thread for a £100k name that is not worth £100k
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Please bear in mind this is a sales thread for a £100k name that is not worth £100k
I think that sums it up for a lot of us here. Post it on your own blog and then maybe invite some of us to give an honest appraisal of your site and it's value on the blog.
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Maybe time to move it out of the sale section and stick it in the DRS section?
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