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deliajen · 13-08-2009, 08:29:55 AM

i am contact with a competitor (who is regulated)and if we can thrash out a suitable commission then if i have permission from them i can add the "representative of a regulated company" in the footer and they cannot touch me with a barge pole,if they persist i will contact the FSA for advice because i am only trying to earn a decent crust,i forgot to mention that they pulled me up because i had plagiarized there content basically i had the same header tag and keywords which was the name of the site which was clear using "copyscape"and they also had "rigorously protects its no 1 position by all means available" in the letter which i think was an extreme reaction

mark

retired_member16 · 13-08-2009, 09:01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deliajen

i forgot to mention that they pulled me up because i had plagiarized there content basically i had the same header tag and keywords which was the name of the site which was clear using "copyscape"and they also had "rigorously protects its no 1 position by all means available" in the letter which i think was an extreme reaction

mark

Ah, you didnt mention that.

Im afraid you deserve all you got there chum.

mojoco · 13-08-2009, 09:18:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deliajen

i am contact with a competitor (who is regulated)and if we can thrash out a suitable commission then if i have permission from them i can add the "representative of a regulated company" in the footer and they cannot touch me with a barge pole,if they persist i will contact the FSA for advice because i am only trying to earn a decent crust,i forgot to mention that they pulled me up because i had plagiarized there content basically i had the same header tag and keywords which was the name of the site which was clear using "copyscape"and they also had "rigorously protects its no 1 position by all means available" in the letter which i think was an extreme reaction

mark

That was the mistake you made, and no wonder they are annoyed with you.
Put yourself in their shoes.

deliajen · 13-08-2009, 09:25:40 AM

not in the content in the "meta tags"they was worried about having the same keywords in the meta data and effecting there seo,it was clear using copyscape and it's obvious that the header1 tag is the name of the site thats just good seo,if i had plagiarized content it would have come up as copied content

grantw · 13-08-2009, 09:36:47 AM

Did you copy their meta tags word for word or not?

Grant

deliajen · 13-08-2009, 09:47:14 AM

i looked under google keyword tool for the highest concentration of searches in that field and cut and pasted them to the submitplus site and generated the meta data that way like i normally do,but yes the first six words were the same,i did research the topic and was influenced by all the sites on the first page of google,i am not whiter than white i have lifted sections from sites before if i am abit sketchy on the subject but i did spend a few days looking into the subject and got a working understanding of the topic before attempting to build a holding page/mini site,i didn't offer to sell anything and it was informative and yes it did have google ads on whilst i was finding an affiliate.it also had a privacy policy and site terms from the business link website.

grantw · 13-08-2009, 10:03:15 AM

I give up mate, this is so unclear. Up there you said:

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Originally Posted by deliajen

..they pulled me up because i had plagiarized there content.....

And now you say all you've done is put the meta keywords together using the google keyword tool << If that's the case I don't see a problem, unless you've lifted their meta description and content from their site?

Grant

jasman · 13-08-2009, 10:05:31 AM

It's not a letter from a solicitor, it's from a competitor, so be suspicious of anything it says. As said in a previous post, the ASA would not be interested. I doubt any of the other organisations mentioned would be either. From what you have said it doesnt contravene Google's T&C.

On a side note, there are thousands of newspaper websites, national portals and the like which have financial sections with financial articles etc. They normally have a disclaimer on the page saying that the article is for informational purposes and does not constitute legal advice. Surely these are not registered with the FSA and they're openly admitting they're not offering professional financial advice. I would advise you to add a similar to the footer of each page.

If it were me, I'd either ignore them completely so as not to waste any time on them, or write a letter back telling them they should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to use such disgraceful, dishonest and underhand tactics. Either way, I'd reinstate the site and it would possibly spur me on to come up with a strategy to completely knock them off the first page of results.

The Ferryman · 13-08-2009, 10:38:45 AM

jasman

Newspapers are a special case, the FSA allow them a degree of freedom not available to other sites.

When I write an article for a newspaper, I am regulated by the FSA, and the article has to be compliant, but the newspaper can write articles for publication and not require FSA registration.

Regards

Bruce

redbird · 13-08-2009, 12:04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deliajen

....but yes the first six words were the same....

I would imagine that would be true for many sites in any small niche where people have done some SEO, if the words are relevant to the topic and not TM's or specific to the competitor in question then it sounds exactly like any decent SEO company would do for that niche.

I don't see any problems and I guess neither would the competitor if you were on page 59 of Google

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deliajen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: loughborough,leicestershire Posts: 1,818 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (94% / 14)	i am contact with a competitor (who is regulated)and if we can thrash out a suitable commission then if i have permission from them i can add the "representative of a regulated company" in the footer and they cannot touch me with a barge pole,if they persist i will contact the FSA for advice because i am only trying to earn a decent crust,i forgot to mention that they pulled me up because i had plagiarized there content basically i had the same header tag and keywords which was the name of the site which was clear using "copyscape"and they also had "rigorously protects its no 1 position by all means available" in the letter which i think was an extreme reaction mark __________________ PizzaVouchers \| Pendant\| Loughborough

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deliajen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: loughborough,leicestershire Posts: 1,818 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (94% / 14)	not in the content in the "meta tags"they was worried about having the same keywords in the meta data and effecting there seo,it was clear using copyscape and it's obvious that the header1 tag is the name of the site thats just good seo,if i had plagiarized content it would have come up as copied content __________________ PizzaVouchers \| Pendant\| Loughborough Last edited by deliajen; 13-08-2009 at 09:30:38 AM. Reason: added more about meta data

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deliajen Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: loughborough,leicestershire Posts: 1,818 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (94% / 14)	i looked under google keyword tool for the highest concentration of searches in that field and cut and pasted them to the submitplus site and generated the meta data that way like i normally do,but yes the first six words were the same,i did research the topic and was influenced by all the sites on the first page of google,i am not whiter than white i have lifted sections from sites before if i am abit sketchy on the subject but i did spend a few days looking into the subject and got a working understanding of the topic before attempting to build a holding page/mini site,i didn't offer to sell anything and it was informative and yes it did have google ads on whilst i was finding an affiliate.it also had a privacy policy and site terms from the business link website. __________________ PizzaVouchers \| Pendant\| Loughborough

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13-08-2009, 10:05:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
jasman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 476 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 10)	It's not a letter from a solicitor, it's from a competitor, so be suspicious of anything it says. As said in a previous post, the ASA would not be interested. I doubt any of the other organisations mentioned would be either. From what you have said it doesnt contravene Google's T&C. On a side note, there are thousands of newspaper websites, national portals and the like which have financial sections with financial articles etc. They normally have a disclaimer on the page saying that the article is for informational purposes and does not constitute legal advice. Surely these are not registered with the FSA and they're openly admitting they're not offering professional financial advice. I would advise you to add a similar to the footer of each page. If it were me, I'd either ignore them completely so as not to waste any time on them, or write a letter back telling them they should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to use such disgraceful, dishonest and underhand tactics. Either way, I'd reinstate the site and it would possibly spur me on to come up with a strategy to completely knock them off the first page of results.

13-08-2009, 10:38:45 AM	#29 (permalink)
The Ferryman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire, United Kingdom Posts: 321 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 11)	jasman Newspapers are a special case, the FSA allow them a degree of freedom not available to other sites. When I write an article for a newspaper, I am regulated by the FSA, and the article has to be compliant, but the newspaper can write articles for publication and not require FSA registration. Regards Bruce