First .eu ADR I've seen for an Acorn Member

sneezycheese · 03-09-2009, 06:42:15 PM

Looks like Michael Toth is going to loose emirates.eu, which must be a bugger as I'm guessing it was purchased on the secondary market:

ADR.eu

...The question now is; will this now open the door to a DRS for the .co.uk and .ltd.uk which Michael also owns?

Anyway sounds expensive, especially with Eric Ramage's fees (Nominet PAB Chair) - Ouch!

Regards,

Sneezy.

retired_member6 · 03-09-2009, 06:56:54 PM

A shame as it states that he has the ltd.uk which would suggest he has a company called 'emirates ltd' in the uk, I havent read it all, was that included in the arguement?

domainking · 04-09-2009, 07:04:55 AM

Sorry to see that happen.

You cant beat big money business when comes to brands looks like they went for the weak option. get the .eu first that then show legal presedence for going for the .uk.

Bet before the dust settles they will lay claim to .co.uk
its discusting that other business can come along and basically steal the business that a person has build up.

wish michael good luck if the do come after the .co.uk

aZooZa · 04-09-2009, 08:23:18 AM

I'm a little surprised at this decision. I thought that the only country name that was ever construed to be a TM was 'The Vatican'. The .org is monetised so I supose they'll be going after that next.

Not a reasonable decision overall IMHO.

retired_member12 · 04-09-2009, 08:37:22 AM

I sometimes wonder whether ADR/DRS/UDRP processes are little more that self serving functions for the registries. When dangled as a carrot for a cheaper decision mechanism, they might well be preventing significant 'legal precedent' decisions from being made.

On another point, I liked the "A&B&C&D&E...." trademark approach though, very clever!

scooter · 04-09-2009, 02:10:34 PM

Within europe, they already own:

emirates.at
emirates.be
emirates.ch
emirates.cz
emirates.de
emirates.fr
emirates.ie
emirates.it
emirates.lu
emirates.lv
emirates.nl
emirates.pl
emirates.ro
emirates.se
emirates.sk

.

retired_member12 · 04-09-2009, 02:32:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter

Within europe, they already own:

emirates.at
emirates.be
emirates.ch
emirates.cz
emirates.de
emirates.fr
emirates.ie
emirates.it
emirates.lu
emirates.lv
emirates.nl
emirates.pl
emirates.ro
emirates.se
emirates.sk

.

So whatever the rights or wrongs of the decision, they clearly take their branding seriously.

aZooZa · 04-09-2009, 02:39:38 PM

Looks like someone in their brand protection department will have had a roasting over this one. Where were they in the .eu sunrise period?

vitalir · 07-11-2009, 10:13:30 AM

I wonder what's the point in simply revoking the domain? As the next owner would get an automatic lawsuit against him, wouldn't he?

crabfoot · 13-11-2009, 05:34:15 AM

I'm definitely not being a racist here, but I know when I see a victim of thieving Arabs! (gwon, tell me the Emirates is populated by Swedes).

I notice that the asking price for makhtoum .com has dropped from $8.5k to $3.5k recently. Hmm ...

03-09-2009, 06:42:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
sneezycheese Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 557 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	First .eu ADR I've seen for an Acorn Member - Ouch! Looks like Michael Toth is going to loose emirates.eu, which must be a bugger as I'm guessing it was purchased on the secondary market: ADR.eu ...The question now is; will this now open the door to a DRS for the .co.uk and .ltd.uk which Michael also owns? Anyway sounds expensive, especially with Eric Ramage's fees (Nominet PAB Chair) - Ouch! Regards, Sneezy.

04-09-2009, 07:04:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
domainking Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 487 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 8)	Sorry to see that happen. You cant beat big money business when comes to brands looks like they went for the weak option. get the .eu first that then show legal presedence for going for the .uk. Bet before the dust settles they will lay claim to .co.uk its discusting that other business can come along and basically steal the business that a person has build up. wish michael good luck if the do come after the .co.uk __________________ Glasgow Largs Cumbernauld Helensburgh Dunoon Jedburgh Cumbria

04-09-2009, 02:10:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
scooter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,506 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 21)	Within europe, they already own: emirates.at emirates.be emirates.ch emirates.cz emirates.de emirates.fr emirates.ie emirates.it emirates.lu emirates.lv emirates.nl emirates.pl emirates.ro emirates.se emirates.sk . __________________ Motorhome hire Scotland

13-11-2009, 05:34:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
crabfoot Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 816 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	I'm definitely not being a racist here, but I know when I see a victim of thieving Arabs! (gwon, tell me the Emirates is populated by Swedes). I notice that the asking price for makhtoum .com has dropped from $8.5k to $3.5k recently. Hmm ... __________________ Cloud Factories ppi-info Last edited by crabfoot; 13-11-2009 at 05:40:53 AM.

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03-09-2009, 06:56:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
retired_member6 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,740 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 41)	A shame as it states that he has the ltd.uk which would suggest he has a company called 'emirates ltd' in the uk, I havent read it all, was that included in the arguement?

04-09-2009, 08:23:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
aZooZa Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,995 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 46)	I'm a little surprised at this decision. I thought that the only country name that was ever construed to be a TM was 'The Vatican'. The .org is monetised so I supose they'll be going after that next. Not a reasonable decision overall IMHO.

04-09-2009, 08:37:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
retired_member12 Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,510 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	I sometimes wonder whether ADR/DRS/UDRP processes are little more that self serving functions for the registries. When dangled as a carrot for a cheaper decision mechanism, they might well be preventing significant 'legal precedent' decisions from being made. On another point, I liked the "A&B&C&D&E...." trademark approach though, very clever!

04-09-2009, 02:39:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
aZooZa Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,995 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 46)	Looks like someone in their brand protection department will have had a roasting over this one. Where were they in the .eu sunrise period?

07-11-2009, 10:13:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
vitalir Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	I wonder what's the point in simply revoking the domain? As the next owner would get an automatic lawsuit against him, wouldn't he?

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