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Old 27-06-2006, 05:36:38 PM     #1 (permalink)

 
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jac says: In this particular appeal, the appeals panel actually seems to acknowledge TM Law in para 8.3.8 when they say:

"The mere fact that a generic word happens also to be a trade mark cannot lead to the trade mark owner monopolising all uses of the word."

I say: but it does....european commission granted prior rights to generic domain names

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Old 27-06-2006, 06:19:55 PM     #2 (permalink)
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jac says: In this particular appeal, the appeals panel actually seems to acknowledge TM Law in para 8.3.8 when they say:

"The mere fact that a generic word happens also to be a trade mark cannot lead to the trade mark owner monopolising all uses of the word."

I say: but it does....european commission granted prior rights to generic domain names

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Can you just clarify that for me? Are you saying that the EU commission says that a trademark owner can monopolise all uses of a given word?

PS: as I am not a lawyer (IANAL) I wouldn't be able to tell you if EU law would override UK law in these cases anyway.

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Old 27-06-2006, 06:32:56 PM     #3 (permalink)

 
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monopolise in that they get first refusal for the mere fact that they own a trade mark

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Old 27-06-2006, 06:40:00 PM     #4 (permalink)
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monopolise in that they get first refusal for the mere fact that they own a trade mark

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Right, I understand you now.

With .uk registrations you (theoretically anyway) get FCFS but the Terms and Conditions clause 7.4 says:

"by registering or using the domain name in any way, you will not infringe the intellectual property rights (for example, trademarks) of anyone else;"

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Old 27-06-2006, 06:59:18 PM     #5 (permalink)

 
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thats right

that part of the .uk is correct but not for .eu

I will send you a PM

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"by registering or using the domain name in any way, you will not infringe the intellectual property rights (for example, trademarks) of anyone else;"

There is a COMMUNITY TRADE MARK that predates Procter & Gambles for "bounce".

http://webdb1.patent.gov.uk/RightSit...himnum=E211664


"3. Evidence of Abusive Registration...

B. as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which the Complainant has Rights..."

I believe we should have a whip-round to allow the Applicant to file a DRS.
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There is a COMMUNITY TRADE MARK that predates Procter & Gambles for "bounce".

http://webdb1.patent.gov.uk/RightSit...himnum=E211664


"3. Evidence of Abusive Registration...

B. as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which the Complainant has Rights..."

I believe we should have a whip-round to allow the Applicant to file a DRS.
... ... agreed.
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Old 28-06-2006, 07:43:00 AM     #8 (permalink)

 
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Right, I understand you now.

With .uk registrations you (theoretically anyway) get FCFS but the Terms and Conditions clause 7.4 says:

"by registering or using the domain name in any way, you will not infringe the intellectual property rights (for example, trademarks) of anyone else;"

Regards
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An interesting clause:

This is is part of what I said in the discussion on DRS last week (this may not be word for word):

I asked why Nominet took a global view on rights in relation to TM when there can be co-existance of marks. I explained a little research on the word "more" I found 50 odd class applications for TM (this doesn't include MORE MORE or other combinations of words). In 22 different classes, from 19 organisations. Only 3 applications were declined, 2 of which have not previous mark registered in that class. I was asked if I felt this should be applied to just generics, I said no....... Nominet did not comment further......

Further to that, at one point and this still concerns me this was said (again this may not be word for word):

"We are only interesting in the name"

One last thing for now........... I asked if Nominet get involved with University studies into domains/industry..................

(this isnt for Jac its open to all)

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