Nominet's recommendation to goto Acorn

grandin · 26-07-2006, 11:36:25 AM

This is the sequence of events with my assertion:-

I wrote: 09/02/2006 10:05:41:

I will ask you a few questions over the next few days
regarding the Policy, Procedure, Process. One of the reasons I need to
ask such questions is to determine whether I should cancel any of my existing
domain names.

Question 1

What is the definition of a 'Generic Domain Name'(a termed referred to by
Nominet's expert and/or experts)?

Nominet wrote:Thu 09/02/2006 10:17
Lee,

This is one I answered very recently on acorn - best have a look there
rather than me repeat it here.
(It's in the 'Domain Research' section, as a response to the post
'generics'.

I wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 10:34
who is or what is and where is Acorn?

Nominet wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 11:18
Acorn Domains, a domainer's forum.
http://www.acorndomains.co.uk

So my assertion is this: On the balance of probability did Nominet think I was a member of Acorn prior to the email dated 9/2/2006?

Lee

rob · 26-07-2006, 12:06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandin

So my assertion is this: On the balance of probability did Nominet think I was a member of Acorn prior to the email dated 9/2/2006?

What does it matter what we think?

Plus the above has been covered in another thread?! (with the result being it was either seen as a genuine mistake or a wider conspiracy)

grandin · 26-07-2006, 12:13:05 PM

I will tell you why it matters:- I was directed to a forum that lists domain names that resemble trade marks with a caveat that says....register TM domain names at your own risk.

Nominet should remain impartial such a recommendation is unprofessional.

If I am incorrect with my assertion then take me to court Nominet....with the recommendation to acorn you, Nominet are no longer impartial...you, Nominet, favoured a certain resource.

Lee

rob · 26-07-2006, 12:21:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandin

If I am incorrect with my assertion then take me to court Nominet....with the recommendation to acorn you, Nominet are no longer impartial...you, Nominet, favoured a certain resource.

Who are you talking to ?!? I am not nominet.

If several of us post 'who cares' or 'nominet were wrong' or 'the sun shines out of nominets arse' how on earth does it matter either way.

If you want Nominet try http://www.nominet.org.uk/about/contact/ which lists post, email and phone numbers.

Jac · 26-07-2006, 12:29:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandin

I will tell you why it matters:- I was directed to a forum that lists domain names that resemble trade marks with a caveat that says....register TM domain names at your own risk.

Nominet should remain impartial such a recommendation is unprofessional.

Nominet states in Clause 7.4, 7.5 and 7.6 of the Terms and Conditions that: "by registering or using the domain name in any way, you will not infringe the intellectual property rights (for example, trademarks) of anyone else;" and "you are entitled to register the domain name" and "you have not registered the domain name in a way that fails to meet with any legal duty you have".

Whilst I understand you think the Terms and Conditions are hard to understand, I would invite you to accept that the above clauses are written in understandable English. Hence, in my opinion, Nominet is impartial and tells people exactly what you say Acorn Domains ("a forum") tells them; that you "register TM domain names at your own risk".

If a recommendation is made in good faith it cannot be unprofessional. You say Michael Penman of Nominet was not helpful, Michael says he was trying to help. He also says he thought you were already a member of Acorn Domains. I believe him. Other people must make their own minds up.

Regards
James Conaghan

tifosi · 26-07-2006, 12:34:19 PM

Agreed, a bit of research in the right places saves everyone time. The information is there on Nominet's site if your willing to look.

There's too many knee jerk comments and new threads of late, where the majority could be avoided, and most end up in us either giving you the same answer of redirecting you to a page on the Nominet site.

S

grandin · 26-07-2006, 12:40:30 PM

yes very clever assertion jac

I wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 10:34
who is or what is and where is Acorn?

Nominet wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 11:18
Acorn Domains, a domainer's forum.
http://www.acorndomains.co.uk

Lee

rob · 26-07-2006, 12:43:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandin

yes very clever assertion jac

I wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 10:34
who is or what is and where is Acorn?

Nominet wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 11:18
Acorn Domains, a domainer's forum.
http://www.acorndomains.co.uk

Which is 100% true.

What is Acorn? It is a domainer forum.
Where is it? www.acorndomains.co.uk .

What is your point?!

Jac · 26-07-2006, 01:12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandin

yes very clever assertion jac

I don't understand the need for sarcasm Lee. You made a bold statement that Nominet was not impartial. I was simply pointing out factual evidence to the contrary in that Nominet already gives easy to understand impartial advice in their Terms and Conditions.

Regards
James Conaghan

grandin · 26-07-2006, 02:33:03 PM

On the 24/1/2006 10.29am DRS03078 was posted by Nominet on AcornDomains.co.uk . This post was made even though Nominet were aware that the domain name in question was subject to Appeal.

Such action was not asked for or required as part of the Nominet Policy. Under the Policy DRS decisions are made public via the Nominet website. The Policy does not allow for favourtism of posting the decision on acorndomains.co.uk.

Regards
Lee

26-07-2006, 11:36:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
grandin Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,273 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 26)	Nominet's recommendation to goto Acorn This is the sequence of events with my assertion:- I wrote: 09/02/2006 10:05:41: I will ask you a few questions over the next few days regarding the Policy, Procedure, Process. One of the reasons I need to ask such questions is to determine whether I should cancel any of my existing domain names. Question 1 What is the definition of a 'Generic Domain Name'(a termed referred to by Nominet's expert and/or experts)? Nominet wrote:Thu 09/02/2006 10:17 Lee, This is one I answered very recently on acorn - best have a look there rather than me repeat it here. (It's in the 'Domain Research' section, as a response to the post 'generics'. I wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 10:34 who is or what is and where is Acorn? Nominet wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 11:18 Acorn Domains, a domainer's forum. http://www.acorndomains.co.uk So my assertion is this: On the balance of probability did Nominet think I was a member of Acorn prior to the email dated 9/2/2006? Lee __________________ Buy To Let Mortgages Buy To Let mortgages Discount Mortgages landlord insurance student loan Commercial Mortgages Fixed Mortgages UK Hotels UK Holidays Last edited by grandin; 26-07-2006 at 12:01:53 PM. Reason: spelling

26-07-2006, 12:13:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
grandin Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,273 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 26)	why does it matter I will tell you why it matters:- I was directed to a forum that lists domain names that resemble trade marks with a caveat that says....register TM domain names at your own risk. Nominet should remain impartial such a recommendation is unprofessional. If I am incorrect with my assertion then take me to court Nominet....with the recommendation to acorn you, Nominet are no longer impartial...you, Nominet, favoured a certain resource. Lee __________________ Buy To Let Mortgages Buy To Let mortgages Discount Mortgages landlord insurance student loan Commercial Mortgages Fixed Mortgages UK Hotels UK Holidays

26-07-2006, 12:40:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
grandin Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,273 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 26)	clever stuff yes very clever assertion jac I wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 10:34 who is or what is and where is Acorn? Nominet wrote: Thu 09/02/2006 11:18 Acorn Domains, a domainer's forum. http://www.acorndomains.co.uk Lee __________________ Buy To Let Mortgages Buy To Let mortgages Discount Mortgages landlord insurance student loan Commercial Mortgages Fixed Mortgages UK Hotels UK Holidays

26-07-2006, 02:33:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
grandin Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,273 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 26)	submission On the 24/1/2006 10.29am DRS03078 was posted by Nominet on AcornDomains.co.uk . This post was made even though Nominet were aware that the domain name in question was subject to Appeal. Such action was not asked for or required as part of the Nominet Policy. Under the Policy DRS decisions are made public via the Nominet website. The Policy does not allow for favourtism of posting the decision on acorndomains.co.uk. Regards Lee __________________ Buy To Let Mortgages Buy To Let mortgages Discount Mortgages landlord insurance student loan Commercial Mortgages Fixed Mortgages UK Hotels UK Holidays

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26-07-2006, 12:34:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
tifosi Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,906 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 9)	Agreed, a bit of research in the right places saves everyone time. The information is there on Nominet's site if your willing to look. There's too many knee jerk comments and new threads of late, where the majority could be avoided, and most end up in us either giving you the same answer of redirecting you to a page on the Nominet site. S

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