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Old 19-08-2011, 10:16:05 AM     #1 (permalink)
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Just been served a UDRP by Warner Bros, need help!

Hello everyone,

Yesterday I received a spectacularly blunt email from lawyers representing Warner Bros notifying me of a UDRP complaint that they've filed against me for my domain thehangover3.com. A domain I registered in December last year (before the film had been announced) and have always intended to use. I know that they're a multi billion dollar company and don't have time for small fries like me but a courteous email would have been much more polite than a blank email with nothing but attached legal documents, but anyway.

I've read all through KingDomainNames' thread here and the community seems to suggest that the best course of action is to avoid all contact with the lawyers, delete the domain and move on. While I'm sure this is sound advice, I can't really take it as a) on the request of Warner Bros, Tucows has frozen the domain, meaning no transfers or deletion can take place, and b) I first want to know if I have a chance of beating Warner Bros and keeping the domain.

So I've been swatting up on what a UDRP is (I didn't know it existed until yesterday), the grounds on which my friends at Warner Bros have filed this complaint and also how I go about responding.

Unfortunately I seem to have shot myself in the foot by automatically putting a 'for sale' notice on this domain (it used to be my default holding page on all my domains) as it gives them good grounds to argue that I registered the domain in "bad faith" and that I only intended to sell it on for profit. However, if the film was actually announced I genuinely intended to create a blog about the film and get some organic traffic going rather than just going straight for a sale.

Currently I'm wondering if I should try and build my blog anyway and fight back on the following grounds (from the UDRP):

"you are making a legitimate noncommercial or fair use of the domain name, without intent for commercial gain to misleadingly divert consumers or to tarnish the trademark or service mark at issue."

or whether I should capitulate and let them take the domain.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

tl;dr Warner Bros lawyers have filed a UDRP complaint against me and I'm wondering if I have grounds to fight or not.
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Old 19-08-2011, 10:21:42 AM     #2 (permalink)
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Why did you reg thehangover3.com ?
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Old 19-08-2011, 10:22:16 AM     #3 (permalink)
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I can't imagine any other use for this domain than trying to profit off their films so IMO you get what you deserve.

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Old 19-08-2011, 10:28:49 AM     #4 (permalink)
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Why did you reg thehangover3.com ?
I liked the last two films, I thought I could start a popular blog about the third. I was surprised that it hadn't been taken.

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I can't imagine any other use for this domain than trying to profit off their films so IMO you get what you deserve.
Fair enough.
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Don't think you have a leg to stand on. If that was the case you could have regged a fan-style name or even hangoverblog.com.

Also, how much blogging could you actually do on the back of a film? Mostly likely the third one won't be great, and even if it is it's never going to be iconic. You might get a year's worth of posts if you're extremely creative, do content spinning or only blog once every couple of weeks. Waste of time for a blog. A subdomain with articles, ratings, reviews etc. might work but there's so much competition from IMDB and big media sites there's no point.
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Give it up

You may incurr costs if a panel are submitted at the minimum.
At worst they'll bend you over and teach you a lesson!

Also they'll be on sites like this with Google alerts so they'll know about this post! They aint daft.

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Also they'll be on sites like this with Google alerts so they'll know about this post! They aint daft.
Why would that be a problem? I've got nothing to hide.
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You only registered it BECAUSE OF THE FILMS. It has literally £0.00 value as a name in and of itself, the only conceivable value is because of its association to the current/future films.

From where I'm sitting, that's cybersquatting, pure and simple.

That means they win. Best give up now before you start incurring real costs. They were kind enough to UDRP you, after all, instead of taking you directly to court (which some companies are doing) which would have automatically meant real costs.
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They were kind enough to UDRP you, after all, instead of taking you directly to court (which some companies are doing) which would have automatically meant real costs.
Maybe I'll send them a bunch of flowers along with my capitulation . Seriously though, you're probably right.

Do you have experience of a UDRP? Assuming I do capitulate, I don't actually know how to go about handing the domain over. I've been invited to a dispute forum on adrforum.com but as far as I can tell there's no way to bend to their commands. If I just leave it will it automatically go through as their victory?
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If a UDRP has been lodged the filing fee will have been paid?
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