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|02-05-2012, 10:37:01 PM||#21 (permalink)|
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they are watcjing what they're up to, i can assure you
trading standards are toothless, as are the fsa
we know that as legally most of the banks in this country should have been closed down for multiple sins
nothing is done and also we don't have the cash for lawyers
but nominet can slap them up if they want
let's face it 123-reg/webfusion etc are only tagholders/registrar
yeah they're big, but they deserve top fall a long way
than can be took off them
|02-05-2012, 10:44:45 PM||#22 (permalink)|
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I'm pretty sure 123-regs T & C's cover it for Gtlds. and i'm not a 100 percent sure but looking at 123-reg's processing of gTLD'S I believe they act as 'Agents' not as the registration service itself - And therefore would mention that in their Blarb that they are subject to the Terms and Conditions of the US service provider. who incidently may be the ones that renewed the domain.
If the domain was in "true" redemption +42 days then $70 is the recovery fee
|02-05-2012, 10:48:04 PM||#23 (permalink)|
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gtld is one thing
if 123 caught the .org.uk and had a fee not sure on that
all that aside they have pulled some real stunts over years, and there the ones I just know about!
|02-05-2012, 10:50:49 PM||#24 (permalink)|
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(And he does mention an apparently 1 year renewal) So not an .org.uk on the face of it. Added to that Richard at 123 has given a fairly concise and readable explanation already - I've just noticed to the Gtld grace period (page 2)
Last edited by Bailey; 02-05-2012 at 11:13:58 PM.
|02-05-2012, 11:12:45 PM||#25 (permalink)|
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.org changes it then
registrars have to pay a fee themselves
I am just used to people on acorn calling .org.uk '.org' through laziness
having any gtld at a .uk registrar is not wise as renewal costs are sky high compared to u.s etc
if you want it uk side then have on autorenew
however only makes sense having in uk if you think it is extremely valuable and possibly may get took at a wipo even though generic (which happens all time)
then when appeal it would go uk courts not u.s etc
|02-05-2012, 11:21:35 PM||#26 (permalink)|
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Credit where it's due
Richards explanation reads to me like 123-reg actually lose money on a Gtld recovery.
This may also explain where the £40 cock-up came when it was applied across the 123- data base. I won't make excuses for them they should have a test-data-base to apply/test code changes first
Last edited by Bailey; 02-05-2012 at 11:27:14 PM.
|02-05-2012, 11:27:35 PM||#27 (permalink)|
For those who want to read 123reg's blurb on the grace period, visit:
They make no mention of the fact that they renew the domain for a year, waiting for you to pay them £40 instead of about £9.99. YES they renwed the domain to avoid them paying any high redemption fees themselves, so what you are saying is wrong. they say they are passing on this fee, but they renew the domain in advance of the domain reaching a grace period.
I have been told by a friend that after a further period of time, if the fee is not paid, the domains end up listed on an unrelated site for thousands of pounds (HugeDomains.com). 123reg state that they have no contact with hugedomains, but yet the domain is renewed by 123 and passed onto hugedomains. Explain that anyone?
|02-05-2012, 11:37:16 PM||#28 (permalink)|
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I am sorry to say but you "May" have got your facts wrong (Not intentionally) but you are subject to the Gtld renewal criteria for a .ORG domain
If you wish to PM (Private Message) the domain (and the relevant time-lines) to me I'm happy to spend a little bit of time giving you some help on this one - whatever you decide - all the Best
Last edited by Bailey; 02-05-2012 at 11:40:58 PM.
|02-05-2012, 11:40:20 PM||#29 (permalink)|
I accept what your saying, and would like to know how 123reg renewing a domain for a further year without my permission meets US renewal criteria?
|02-05-2012, 11:52:40 PM||#30 (permalink)|
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I am sorry for both you and your client - but if you put things in perspective, it's nothing more than a 'Parking ticket' for your oversight. (that's the £40) And you was given the maximum 45 days to renew at standard charge- (only 123 reg give that to my knowledge)
Trust me in the Gtld world, as in your local council run carpark - it is lawful.
And by comparison if you leave your car for 42+ days the local council will indeed sell you car to the highest bidder.
Fortunately "Nominet" our UK services for .co.uk etc haven't hit that low (hence the 92 days grace) AND more importantly NO (Internal) domain capture. And I appreciate you coming to terms with the way things are - so quickly - Who knows You may even want to change your user name if your staying around
Last edited by Bailey; 03-05-2012 at 12:11:19 AM.
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