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Alien · 09-06-2009, 11:21:03 AM

I've noticed recently that when a domain registered via Fasthosts/UK Reg enters a suspended state, the nameservers change to:

ns1.domcollect.com
ns2.domcollect.com

Before it was Sedo parking NS (but DomCollect are in fact Sedo right?!).

Both DomCollect and UK Reg/Fasthosts appear to be in bed together?!

retired_member6 · 09-06-2009, 11:40:16 AM

Well sedo and domcollect are sister companies so contrary to sedo saying they dont let domcollect taste ukreg domains, it appears they do, scum, theyre both scum.

bb99 · 09-06-2009, 11:42:31 AM

Does it happen when the domain goes suspended, or when it goes over its renewal date?

If it happens when suspended, I'm not sure of the tasting benefit because domains won't resolve when suspended.

rob · 09-06-2009, 11:43:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb99

Does it happen when the domain goes suspended, or when it goes over its renewal date?

If it happens when suspended, I'm not sure of the tasting benefit because domains won't resolve when suspended.

...and if it is beforehand surely the registrant isnt getting the full registration term they have paid for?

retired_member6 · 09-06-2009, 11:45:06 AM

renewal date when I used to watch them. I call it theft either way, a customer buys a domain, yet theyre allowed to auction and buy the names how they see fit at the end with .com, not sure what they do with .co.uk, never let the punks near mine.

Alien · 09-06-2009, 11:53:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb99

Does it happen when the domain goes suspended, or when it goes over its renewal date?

Mhmmm, it appears to happen 14 days after the renewal is due!

e.g:

Quote:

Registrar:
Fasthosts Internet Ltd [Tag = FASTHOSTS]
URL: Web and email hosting, domain names and dedicated servers - Fasthosts

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 11-May-2007
Renewal date: 11-May-2009
Last updated: 25-May-2009

Registration status:
Renewal required.

Name servers:
ns1.domcollect.com
ns2.domcollect.com

WHOIS lookup made at 12:51:21 09-Jun-2009

bb99 · 09-06-2009, 12:07:15 PM

Interesting. So, theoretically speaking, the traffic can be 'tasted' prior to suspension and then there could be an attempted dropcatch when it drops.

It's genius!

grantw · 09-06-2009, 12:31:49 PM

Now that is well dodgy!!!!!!!!!!

Grant

bb99 · 09-06-2009, 03:50:58 PM

It's certainly unusual - I'm not sure if it's dodgy

Let's say you buy a domain name and web hosting for two years. Your hosting agreement lasts for two years exactly. At which point your host turns the hosting off.

Your domain name also lasts for two years but Nominet very kindly give you a grace period after that two years.

Your host is under no obligation to provide DNS/email/web after their contract with you runs out.

So is it wrong, in between expiry and suspension, for the host/registrar to point it to a parking page, a registrar holding page, or something else?

I know the PAB looked at registrar parking pages in September 2008 - whilst this isn't the same thing, it's surely in the same ballpark:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAB September 2008

The PAB recommended that Nominet should make registrars aware that they should be following the existing registrar good Practice terms and specifically draw their attention to the risks that a registrant could face if their domain name is associated with a parking page.

Any idea if this is in the T&Cs?

grantw · 09-06-2009, 04:29:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb99

Your host is under no obligation to provide DNS/email/web after their contract with you runs out.

Fair point!

GRant

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bb99 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,561 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 4)	Interesting. So, theoretically speaking, the traffic can be 'tasted' prior to suspension and then there could be an attempted dropcatch when it drops. It's genius! __________________ Droppr - finely tuned .uk dropcatching for Nominet members Gazebos \| Flyers, Postcards \| Tree Surveys \| Dent Repairs Leeds \| Poster Printing

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retired_member6 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,740 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 41)	Well sedo and domcollect are sister companies so contrary to sedo saying they dont let domcollect taste ukreg domains, it appears they do, scum, theyre both scum.

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retired_member6 Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,740 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 41)	renewal date when I used to watch them. I call it theft either way, a customer buys a domain, yet theyre allowed to auction and buy the names how they see fit at the end with .com, not sure what they do with .co.uk, never let the punks near mine.

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