The London Office for Verifications and Registrations

Coder · 20-08-2007, 08:25:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olebean

The business changed names in July. There are two directors, if you need welsh addresses let me know..

Yes I believe they were www.mainstreamtech.co.uk before they www.streamlineltd.co.uk and now in the past few weeks www.loovar.co.uk

Notice the identical about us pages:
http://www.mainstreamtech.co.uk/index.php?page=aboutus
http://www.loovar.co.uk/about.php

More scammed people:
http://www.davidhurst.co.uk/2007/06/...0870-850-2820/

Coder

Johnp · 20-08-2007, 08:28:01 PM

Let this be a lesson about 'high pressure' phone sales. If you are a consumer ( rather than a business) you have the Distance Selling Rules to support you. As a business customer watch out !- your only redress is the courts. As the recipient of many phone calls offering dodgy internet directory lisitings wanting instant sign ups - keep a big a sign on your desk to remind you to say 'NO' like I do - LOL

If a cold caller's offer is genuine, of value and of urgent attention then an email to you summarising what they are offering and why you should act, is only reasonable and a reply from you when you have had time to consider (check elsewhere) is also reasonable. If they won't put it in writing then I would suggest it only because it is neither genuine nor something you should act on.

Just my opinion - having worked in professional sales environment, where putting stuff in writing was expected.

JohnP

Coder · 20-08-2007, 08:35:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnp

Let this be a lesson about 'high pressure' phone sales. If you are a consumer ( rather than a business) you have the Distance Selling Rules to support you. As a business customer watch out !- your only redress is the courts. As the recipient of many phone calls offering dodgy internet directory lisitings wanting instant sign ups - keep a big a sign on your desk to remind you to say 'NO' like I do - LOL

If a cold caller's offer is genuine, of value and of urgent attention then an email to you summarising what they are offering and why you should act, is only reasonable and a reply from you when you have had time to consider (check elsewhere) is also reasonable. If they won't put it in writing then I would suggest it only because it is neither genuine nor something you should act on.

Just my opinion - having worked in professional sales environment, where putting stuff in writing was expected.

JohnP

Oh this one is CERTAINLY going down to experience John.
In fact sitting here I can't quite believe how I was sucked in.
Feel a right mug!

Rich · 20-08-2007, 09:06:11 PM

They are doing exactly the same as these

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/tsearch/domain+name+scam.htm

http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/legalinfo/scams/

http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/c...domainregserv/

From what I remember there were a couple of companies around the swansea area ended up in court on criminal charges

Coder · 20-08-2007, 10:13:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

They are doing exactly the same as these

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/tsearch/domain+name+scam.htm

http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/legalinfo/scams/

http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/c...domainregserv/

From what I remember there were a couple of companies around the swansea area ended up in court on criminal charges

If only I'd stayed more informed...I would've smelt this a mile off!

disruptive · 21-08-2007, 01:44:54 PM

If you want more details:

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/d7...39/compdetails

I think its �1/2 for the company info...inc directors...so could be worth the investment...

anyone tempted to ring them up?

If they did that to me or tried it with me or my family. I would send the boys in

olebean · 21-08-2007, 02:59:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disruptive

If you want more details:

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/d7...39/compdetails

I think its �1/2 for the company info...inc directors...so could be worth the investment...

anyone tempted to ring them up?

If they did that to me or tried it with me or my family. I would send the boys in

pm me for free info

retired_member15 · 21-08-2007, 03:27:13 PM

A client of mine had these people contact them on the back of me selling a domain name to them (my client).

Here is the clients email to me. Note domain name and names changed.

Quote:

Last week we purchased somedomainname.co.uk and this morning we have been approached by the London Office of Verifications and Registrations to advise that an individual is registering to set up 4 new domain names as somemoredomainnames.co.uk/com/net/eu.

It seems a great coincidence to us that we purchased somedomainname.co.uk last week and this week someone is registering to set up the new domain names. Obviously we are slightly concerned that the transaction between us may have been made public and that this new individual is registering these names in the hope of trying to sell them to us - we are definately not interested in buying them - or that he is trying to trade of the back of our good reputation - in which case we'd just sue him. The timing is very odd and almost too much of a coincidence.

The only information that Loovar would give me is that the buyer is an individual, not called domain name, is an Indian and lives in Islington. I seem to recall that the. Are you able to shed any light on this turn of events for us?

Coder · 21-08-2007, 05:20:51 PM

Hi Guys,
Didn't receive a reply from www.Loovar.co.uk today. Didn't really expect either, seen as they're scammers!

Have been advised by my bank that the money has gone out of my account and to contact VISA disputes which I will do shortly.

I also remember the woman(I could think of other words for her) saying I would get 1 year free if I registered for 2 years. The current expiry date is showing two years.
Can you register .info,.biz,.eu,.net for 3 years or one year (in two years time?) Could be more grounds for dispute/misprepresentation!

I've posted here http://www.davidhurst.co.uk/2007/06/...0870-850-2820/ to update people of their new trading name.

Also plan to look for as many scam forums/websites as possible to warn people.

Have informed Met Police( Fraud Squad) and reported them to their service provider SupaNames, (along with Trading Standards and Nominet).

Oh!, and nice to see Google have already indexed this thread in a Loovar search!

Coder
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moonjoose · 23-08-2007, 11:23:44 AM

These guys have been around for a while. I first came across them as Mainstream Tech Ltd. I put a post on my blog and it got a lot of comments, so I set up a website to focus specifically on domain name scams (www.domainscams.co.uk). We are trying to get Trading Standards to shut them down. If you have an experience, please post it on my site also, as TS are using it to build evidence.

Thanks.

20-08-2007, 09:06:11 PM	#24 (permalink)
Rich Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 517 Classified Rating: 100% (1) Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 37)	They are doing exactly the same as these http://www.zdnet.co.uk/tsearch/domain+name+scam.htm http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/legalinfo/scams/ http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/c...domainregserv/ From what I remember there were a couple of companies around the swansea area ended up in court on criminal charges __________________ Hard work never killed anybody - but why take the chance Last edited by Rich; 20-08-2007 at 09:08:20 PM.

21-08-2007, 01:44:54 PM	#26 (permalink)
disruptive Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,374 Classified Rating: 0% (-1) Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 4)	If you want more details: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/d7...39/compdetails I think its �1/2 for the company info...inc directors...so could be worth the investment... anyone tempted to ring them up? If they did that to me or tried it with me or my family. I would send the boys in __________________ SOCIALNETWORK.CO.UK\|QuoteSmart.CO.UK\|Photovoltaics.CO.UK\|APPROVAL.CO.UK\|Genetic Testing for Health - Xmas Special

23-08-2007, 11:23:44 AM	#30 (permalink)
moonjoose Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	Filthy Scammers These guys have been around for a while. I first came across them as Mainstream Tech Ltd. I put a post on my blog and it got a lot of comments, so I set up a website to focus specifically on domain name scams (www.domainscams.co.uk). We are trying to get Trading Standards to shut them down. If you have an experience, please post it on my site also, as TS are using it to build evidence. Thanks.

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20-08-2007, 08:28:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
Johnp Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 371 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 10)	Let this be a lesson about 'high pressure' phone sales. If you are a consumer ( rather than a business) you have the Distance Selling Rules to support you. As a business customer watch out !- your only redress is the courts. As the recipient of many phone calls offering dodgy internet directory lisitings wanting instant sign ups - keep a big a sign on your desk to remind you to say 'NO' like I do - LOL If a cold caller's offer is genuine, of value and of urgent attention then an email to you summarising what they are offering and why you should act, is only reasonable and a reply from you when you have had time to consider (check elsewhere) is also reasonable. If they won't put it in writing then I would suggest it only because it is neither genuine nor something you should act on. Just my opinion - having worked in professional sales environment, where putting stuff in writing was expected. JohnP

21-08-2007, 05:20:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
Coder Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	Hi Guys, Didn't receive a reply from www.Loovar.co.uk today. Didn't really expect either, seen as they're scammers! Have been advised by my bank that the money has gone out of my account and to contact VISA disputes which I will do shortly. I also remember the woman(I could think of other words for her) saying I would get 1 year free if I registered for 2 years. The current expiry date is showing two years. Can you register .info,.biz,.eu,.net for 3 years or one year (in two years time?) Could be more grounds for dispute/misprepresentation! I've posted here http://www.davidhurst.co.uk/2007/06/...0870-850-2820/ to update people of their new trading name. Also plan to look for as many scam forums/websites as possible to warn people. Have informed Met Police( Fraud Squad) and reported them to their service provider SupaNames, (along with Trading Standards and Nominet). Oh!, and nice to see Google have already indexed this thread in a Loovar search! Coder ----------