Heads up on a possible PM then MSNGR then Paypal scam

bennyboy · 30-01-2009, 10:57:55 PM

Sorry to repeat a post I wrote in another thread, but I want you all to see what happened to me:
I think I was just scammed. I sold 17 names for $1000. The guy approached via im and asked to chat on msn. WE chatted today, and after he transferred the money to my paypal ac I transferred the names to his godaddy ac. Easy.

Then as soon as I received the email confirming that they were transferred, I received an email from the buyers paypal email address, saying that he never authorised the purchase. And paypal then mailed me saying that the funds were frozen, and if the funds are returned to him, then as the names are intangible goods, I am not covered by paypals sellers protection scheme.

So I immediately called godaddy, and then emailed then everything, and am then forwarding it to paypal.

So I could lose out big time. I should have smelt a rat when he said that didn't want some of the names as they were with snapnames, so could I replace them with more from godaddy. As the best ones were the snapnames ones, I was a bit suspicious when he decided he didn't want them. I told him to set up a snapnames account, but he was happy with the godaddy ones.

If you have any advice then I would be grateful.

Cheers

ben

rob · 30-01-2009, 11:05:39 PM

Sorry to hear that

Could be worth starting a new thread as could be lost on the eyes of people who have encountered this type of thing before?

fingers crossed you get it sorted!

ratboy · 30-01-2009, 11:07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennyboy

smelt a rat

Just to be clear it wasn't anything to do with me.

Yeah, thats crap. Hope it gets sorted out.

GreyWing · 30-01-2009, 11:23:40 PM

I that's crap mate, one of the reasons that I would never sell a .com, it's like the wild west.

Least Nominet would help out a little,

dashu1 · 30-01-2009, 11:43:46 PM

I've had similar things with paypal where people have even gone to their credit cars companies & claimed they never authorised the transaction & I've had paypal & the credit card company find in my favour.

I think what you need to do is to provide documentary evidence to paypal that shows that these domains were in your name, that they are now in his name, & the time they were tranferred & how that corresponds to the transfer of money.

I think he'll find it difficult to explain why the goods were transferred into his name & why he hasn't returned them if he didn't initiate the transaction.

bennyboy · 31-01-2009, 02:00:40 PM

I have checked on the whois and they are listed as being owned by:

Kam, Katie
Wooster #15
wooster, FL 40425
United States
3304664150

Any suggestions of what to do, if you have seen those details before?

I guess it is fake anyway!

dashu1 · 31-01-2009, 02:42:24 PM

Wasn't the paypal account in the same name as the person who bought them?

bennyboy · 31-01-2009, 02:47:57 PM

Domain Forum • Thema anzeigen - Scammed Domain Names

It seems I am not the only one!!

dashu1 · 31-01-2009, 02:53:54 PM

If you search for "katie kam" wooster on google you might find some more.

I seem to be having difficulties with google at the mo - every page shows the "this site may harm your computer" message - anyone else got this problem?

bennyboy · 31-01-2009, 03:15:05 PM

me too!!! maybe they have scammed google!!!

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30-01-2009, 10:57:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
bennyboy Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	Sorry to repeat a post I wrote in another thread, but I want you all to see what happened to me: I think I was just scammed. I sold 17 names for $1000. The guy approached via im and asked to chat on msn. WE chatted today, and after he transferred the money to my paypal ac I transferred the names to his godaddy ac. Easy. Then as soon as I received the email confirming that they were transferred, I received an email from the buyers paypal email address, saying that he never authorised the purchase. And paypal then mailed me saying that the funds were frozen, and if the funds are returned to him, then as the names are intangible goods, I am not covered by paypals sellers protection scheme. So I immediately called godaddy, and then emailed then everything, and am then forwarding it to paypal. So I could lose out big time. I should have smelt a rat when he said that didn't want some of the names as they were with snapnames, so could I replace them with more from godaddy. As the best ones were the snapnames ones, I was a bit suspicious when he decided he didn't want them. I told him to set up a snapnames account, but he was happy with the godaddy ones. If you have any advice then I would be grateful. Cheers ben

30-01-2009, 11:43:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
dashu1 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 785 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (92% / 10)	I've had similar things with paypal where people have even gone to their credit cars companies & claimed they never authorised the transaction & I've had paypal & the credit card company find in my favour. I think what you need to do is to provide documentary evidence to paypal that shows that these domains were in your name, that they are now in his name, & the time they were tranferred & how that corresponds to the transfer of money. I think he'll find it difficult to explain why the goods were transferred into his name & why he hasn't returned them if he didn't initiate the transaction.

31-01-2009, 02:00:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
bennyboy Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	I have checked on the whois and they are listed as being owned by: Kam, Katie Wooster #15 wooster, FL 40425 United States 3304664150 Any suggestions of what to do, if you have seen those details before? I guess it is fake anyway!

31-01-2009, 02:42:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
dashu1 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 785 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (92% / 10)	Wasn't the paypal account in the same name as the person who bought them?

31-01-2009, 02:47:57 PM	#28 (permalink)
bennyboy Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	Domain Forum • Thema anzeigen - Scammed Domain Names It seems I am not the only one!!

31-01-2009, 02:53:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
dashu1 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 785 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (92% / 10)	If you search for "katie kam" wooster on google you might find some more. I seem to be having difficulties with google at the mo - every page shows the "this site may harm your computer" message - anyone else got this problem?

31-01-2009, 03:15:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
bennyboy Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	me too!!! maybe they have scammed google!!!