This is an appraisal scam. Part one[too long post]

franka · 14-04-2006, 11:57:26 AM

Because I just joined this forum,the below post might have allready been posted.
I still like to warn people again.
Please read.=======
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I need an appraisal certificate for domain priced in your range. I consider your name as an investment. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.
Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. Please note that I don't trust free or cheap appraisals.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/36079.htm
Juck check this posting.
From: <server@it4c.com>

To: "'Cheney'" <dcheney@phreaker.net>

Subject: RE: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05)
Hi,
Original Message-----

From: Cheney [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net]

Sent: 19 September 2005 21:00
To: server@it4c.com
Subject: Re: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05)
Please tell me your price or at least price range. Hope it will be
under 20,000 USD.
---- Original Message -----

From: <server@it4c.com>

To: "'Cheney'" <dcheney@phreaker.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: RE: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05)
Hi,
I had planned to sell it4c.net but wasn't planning originally to
sell it4c.com, however I will sell if the price is suitable, I think the best way to proceed is if you could make me an offer for the two names and we could proceed from there.

Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cheney [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net]
Sent: 19 September 2005 17:41
To: server@it4c.com
Subject: Re: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05)
it4c.net and it4c.com if possible.
I need to know the lowest price you can accept.
What is your price range: $10,000 or $20,000 or even higher?
Please send it to me via email as soon as possible.
Original Message -----
From: TNC Engineering [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net]
Sent: 19 September 2005 14:36
To: domains@it4c.com
Subject: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05)
Hello,
I'm interested in your domain name listed for sale.
Can you drop me your desired price?
If I can afford it I'll reply.
By the way, did you receive offers from other buyers?
I run a software development company. Selling & buying names is
not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.
Please keep our correspondence confidential.
Best regards,
Darren Cheney
Ph. D. Vice President
TNC Engineering
================================================== =================From:

golddiggerguy · 23-06-2008, 11:25:27 AM

Just got this email and thought I'd warn a few people
phreaker.net was the domain the email came from. Loads of stuff on Google about appraisal scams.

Greetings!.......Wormery.net has been found via online auctions.

Please let us know the your price and we will consider it.

Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Stecker
Vice President
N G (The Next Generation) Services

I replied with a sum and got this back

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

14-04-2006, 11:57:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
franka Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (0% / 0)	This is an appraisal scam. Part one[too long post] Because I just joined this forum,the below post might have allready been posted. I still like to warn people again. Please read.======= ================================================== ======== I need an appraisal certificate for domain priced in your range. I consider your name as an investment. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain. Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. Please note that I don't trust free or cheap appraisals. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/36079.htm Juck check this posting. From: <server@it4c.com> To: "'Cheney'" <dcheney@phreaker.net> Subject: RE: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05) Hi, Original Message----- From: Cheney [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net] Sent: 19 September 2005 21:00 To: server@it4c.com Subject: Re: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05) Please tell me your price or at least price range. Hope it will be under 20,000 USD. ---- Original Message ----- From: <server@it4c.com> To: "'Cheney'" <dcheney@phreaker.net> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: RE: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05) Hi, I had planned to sell it4c.net but wasn't planning originally to sell it4c.com, however I will sell if the price is suitable, I think the best way to proceed is if you could make me an offer for the two names and we could proceed from there. Regards. -----Original Message----- From: Cheney [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net] Sent: 19 September 2005 17:41 To: server@it4c.com Subject: Re: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05) it4c.net and it4c.com if possible. I need to know the lowest price you can accept. What is your price range: $10,000 or $20,000 or even higher? Please send it to me via email as soon as possible. Original Message ----- From: TNC Engineering [mailto:dcheney@phreaker.net] Sent: 19 September 2005 14:36 To: domains@it4c.com Subject: it4c.net (sent 09/19/05) Hello, I'm interested in your domain name listed for sale. Can you drop me your desired price? If I can afford it I'll reply. By the way, did you receive offers from other buyers? I run a software development company. Selling & buying names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. Please keep our correspondence confidential. Best regards, Darren Cheney Ph. D. Vice President TNC Engineering ================================================== =================From:

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23-06-2008, 11:25:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
golddiggerguy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hullywood Posts: 3,361 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 58)	Just got this email and thought I'd warn a few people phreaker.net was the domain the email came from. Loads of stuff on Google about appraisal scams. Greetings!.......Wormery.net has been found via online auctions. Please let us know the your price and we will consider it. Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Anthony Stecker Vice President N G (The Next Generation) Services I replied with a sum and got this back Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog: Domain Talk If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply.