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Old 31-01-2006, 02:55 PM   #11

 
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I'm not up on valuing domain names by any means, but Ash's reply is helpful. He's been good enough to enter the den.

I am surprised that Ash reckons the britishpubguide.co.uk is worth as much as he says (low to mid £x,xxxs). To back Ash's view, though, both the .com and the .co.uk were regged in 1999, so someone back then thought they were of value and have held on to them. (Mind you, a lot of junk was regged back then and is still being held on to ... I have one or two myself )

As for securedloan.co.uk, I would have thought that this was only £x,xxxs at the most. If it was unsecuredloan.co.uk, then perhaps it could top the £xx,xxxs.

All in all, I am surprised at the higher than expected value of these domains.

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Old 31-01-2006, 03:21 PM   #12
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the kinds words.

OleBean: If there are mutliple markets, we try to take into account all of them. Obviously, the larger the market and the higher number of markets, the higher the price. If there is no existing market, then we make an attempt to at least predict the value or size of that new or emerging market.

As for the high prices, domain valuations, like most valuations, do have a bit of subjectivity involved on the part of the appraiser. With these domains, I think the values would be very attainable if/when a decent enduser comes along.

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If britishpubguide.co.uk is worth low to mid £x,xxxs, how come gbpubguide.co.uk isn't worth the reg fee?
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To me value is based on ROI. That might be ppc earnings for a domainer or leads that are convertable into sales for a company. Nothing else can be truly measured, and imho value cannot be assessed by a third party. Each domain is unique and the 'buyer' makes their unique judgement. I always tell a potential buyer to assess what value the domain will bring to their business over x time and for them to then make an appropriate offer based on that calculation AND not to be tempted to offer more than they can afford with the costings of their business. They should be able to do this. If the offer is not good for me I politely decline. End of discussion. It's sound business sense, for both parties. A third party has nothing to do with this part of the process, just escrow security. I don't like third party valuations. Their not buying, their not selling. Their input can hinder a sale.

For example, if I sell a random three letter domain for x,xxx this doesn't mean that I would necessarily sell another random three letter domain for the same sum to another party shorty thereafter.
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Is securedloan.co.uk for sale?!
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As it happens securedloan.co.uk is one of our domains, as is unsecuredloan.co.uk. Funny seeing sedo giving a free appraisal of our domain on this forum . We would place its value above unsecuredloan.co.uk although we believe both of them are, in our opinion, of 5 figure value. However they're not currently for sale.
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Secured loans are great business. Risk free for the lender. They love it.

Unsecured is risky. Repayments are higher and therefore less attractive. Less of that kind of lending is being done.

Therefore the 'secured' domain has got to be more valuable.
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Yes a good secured lead is probably worth 20 times an unsecured lead BUT you'd probably get 20 times as many people looking for an unsecured loan!
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Excuse my ignorance... slightly off topic may be but still relative re: pricing...

How come hive.com (amongst others) is featured in top domains with a 'sky high' $1.25 mil price ticket?

Appreciate their is some value but how much? How is that derived in this case....

It's probably my ignorance but as you guys require prior approval for listing over 5k, how is it's price tag justified?

Seems overly excessive to me...

Appreciate your feedback..
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Our listing system essentially works like this:
If you want to list your domain for over $10k, then you have two options:
1. Order an appraisal
2. Email us, and when a domain is clearly worth more than $10k, and we can allow a higher listing price. We don't have any pre-set rules for defining what is clearly over $10k, but obvious candidates are one word .com's, decent one word .co.uk's, etc etc. I know this might sound a bit subjective, but if we didn't include this choice, it'd just seem we're forcing people to get appraisals!

We do this because if we did not, you'd see 80% of domains listed for sale above $10k, with many domains probably listed at $999,999, and that just doesn't reflect the market value of most domains. This way, domain owners will at least have a better idea of what a neutral party might think their domain is worth. After an appraisal or permission has been obtained, people are free to list their domain at whatever price they want, because we cannot after all set prices. It might sound a little contradictory, but it's the best solution we've come up with for now.

So, finally(!), to answer your question, I believe the owner ordered an appraisal, so he is now free to list the domain at whatever price he'd like. He won't sell it for $1.25 million, but he can try his best!


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