Register your domain name

alex · 30-01-2010, 10:16:52 PM

I've contacted Phil Norris so I guess I just wait to see what happens. Thanks for the advice. There�s no issue with buying it apart from the price, although granted it is a quarter of what it has been the past year.

The main points I was trying to bring out here were can anyone register a person�s name when they have no affiliation themselves? The answer seems yes. However if this is the case why is there such an issue with people who buy names such as Susan Boyle? I�m just interested in the distinction between the two cases.

I have nothing against anyone who does this, although naturally it is going to be frustrating when it is something that is relevant to me. Is this something that most people do? As I said maybe I�m missing out on something, but its just my personal opinion that TMs and names are similar, although not in the legal sense.

retired_member9 · 30-01-2010, 10:35:12 PM

If you can demonstrate in the DRS that the domain name was registered with a primary intention to sell it to someone who has rights to it (and you do have a right to your name+surname.co.uk) and registrant do not have any other uses for the name, then you can win it.

I think you have pretty good chances to get it via DRS, even without paying DRS fee. Many deals are negotiated during mediation and seller might agree to offer it to you for a substantially lower figure. So if you have spare time you have nothing to lose to try it ;-)

alex · 30-01-2010, 10:58:37 PM

Thanks for the info. To be honest I don�t know too much about the DRS process, but I will investigate. At this stage an offer has been made and I�ll see what comes of it before I decide what I�m going to do.

woopwoop · 31-01-2010, 12:52:31 AM

I guess one important question is why did they register it?

Is FirstnameLastname.co.uk the name of someone in the company or a family member?

Do they know you and are trying to get an offer from you?

Is there a celeb with your name and they are trying to get paid from them?

There must be a reason why they reg'd the name and so that will provide a direction for you to go in negotiating with them (or DRS etc.). It will also give you an idea of how tight a grip they have on (and how much they care about) the domain.

Obviously you might not be able to know exactly why they reg'd it in all cases, but you might have an idea from searching or reading about them.

retired_member13 · 31-01-2010, 12:58:19 AM

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Originally Posted by woopwoop

I guess one important question is why did they register it?

Obviously you might not be able to know exactly why they reg'd it in all cases, but you might have an idea from searching or reading about them.

It's DomCollect, Sedo's domain buying / trading sister company. They've got 10,000s of domains - they buy on the aftermarket, reg and drop catch (that was kinda the point of the middle of the thread).

newguy · 31-01-2010, 07:31:41 AM

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Originally Posted by alex

I take the point, but what about the case with celebrity names, or is it literally just something that is frowned upon?

You're on dicey ground with known persons, especially if you purchased the domain after they became famous, and if you use it as some kind of unofficial fan site (but with an official domain). Didn't that happen with the susanboyle uk domain straight after she became famous? I wonder if action will ever be taken.

alex · 01-02-2010, 08:35:59 PM

Thank you for the suggestions and help. In the end I contacted them and I purchased the domain. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I now have it.

HariSeldon · 02-02-2010, 10:19:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vizzy

If you can demonstrate in the DRS that the domain name was registered with a primary intention to sell it to someone who has rights to it (and you do have a right to your name+surname.co.uk) and registrant do not have any other uses for the name, then you can win it.

I know that the OP has now bought this domain but is this interpretation of the DRS correct?

My understanding was that you had to demonstrate the Registrant's intention was to sell it to you (the Complainant) not just "someone"?

30-01-2010, 10:16:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
alex Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rutland and Durham, UK Posts: 532 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 12)	I've contacted Phil Norris so I guess I just wait to see what happens. Thanks for the advice. There�s no issue with buying it apart from the price, although granted it is a quarter of what it has been the past year. The main points I was trying to bring out here were can anyone register a person�s name when they have no affiliation themselves? The answer seems yes. However if this is the case why is there such an issue with people who buy names such as Susan Boyle? I�m just interested in the distinction between the two cases. I have nothing against anyone who does this, although naturally it is going to be frustrating when it is something that is relevant to me. Is this something that most people do? As I said maybe I�m missing out on something, but its just my personal opinion that TMs and names are similar, although not in the legal sense. __________________ Tag: ALEXJORDAN Sites: alexjordan.co.uk \| Griptape.co.uk For Sale/Offers Invited: LLL.org.uk \| VVV.org.uk \| 090.co.uk \| 029.co.uk

30-01-2010, 10:58:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
alex Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rutland and Durham, UK Posts: 532 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 12)	Thanks for the info. To be honest I don�t know too much about the DRS process, but I will investigate. At this stage an offer has been made and I�ll see what comes of it before I decide what I�m going to do. __________________ Tag: ALEXJORDAN Sites: alexjordan.co.uk \| Griptape.co.uk For Sale/Offers Invited: LLL.org.uk \| VVV.org.uk \| 090.co.uk \| 029.co.uk

31-01-2010, 12:52:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
woopwoop Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,484 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 15)	I guess one important question is why did they register it? Is FirstnameLastname.co.uk the name of someone in the company or a family member? Do they know you and are trying to get an offer from you? Is there a celeb with your name and they are trying to get paid from them? There must be a reason why they reg'd the name and so that will provide a direction for you to go in negotiating with them (or DRS etc.). It will also give you an idea of how tight a grip they have on (and how much they care about) the domain. Obviously you might not be able to know exactly why they reg'd it in all cases, but you might have an idea from searching or reading about them. __________________ Connect with me @ TW:LI:FB \| MyWeb \| D/L domains4sale \| Morecambe London Student Forums Student Books UK promotions agencies

01-02-2010, 08:35:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
alex Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rutland and Durham, UK Posts: 532 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 12)	Thank you for the suggestions and help. In the end I contacted them and I purchased the domain. It was more than I wanted to spend, but I now have it. __________________ Tag: ALEXJORDAN Sites: alexjordan.co.uk \| Griptape.co.uk For Sale/Offers Invited: LLL.org.uk \| VVV.org.uk \| 090.co.uk \| 029.co.uk

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30-01-2010, 10:35:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
retired_member9 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 532 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (80% / 3)	If you can demonstrate in the DRS that the domain name was registered with a primary intention to sell it to someone who has rights to it (and you do have a right to your name+surname.co.uk) and registrant do not have any other uses for the name, then you can win it. I think you have pretty good chances to get it via DRS, even without paying DRS fee. Many deals are negotiated during mediation and seller might agree to offer it to you for a substantially lower figure. So if you have spare time you have nothing to lose to try it ;-)