Dropped domains

vizzo · 11-09-2010, 04:56:00 PM

Just interested what people's experience is. As I understand it, dropped domains should lose PR (I think it was Matt Cutts at Google who said that). However that is not necessarily what we experience. So I'd be interested if people would estimate - what percentage of domains still have the original PR, two months after you re-registered them.

To get the ball rolling my experience over a limited number of about 8 or 10 domains is 30% kept their PR

Brassneck · 11-09-2010, 07:24:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vizzo

Just interested what people's experience is. As I understand it, dropped domains should lose PR (I think it was Matt Cutts at Google who said that). However that is not necessarily what we experience. So I'd be interested if people would estimate - what percentage of domains still have the original PR, two months after you re-registered them.

To get the ball rolling my experience over a limited number of about 8 or 10 domains is 30% kept their PR

If you get them reindexed - as far as i can see the majority if not all.

Stephen.

ScottJ · 12-09-2010, 08:35:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brassneck

If you get them reindexed - as far as i can see the majority if not all.

I'd agree with Stephen.

crabfoot · 13-09-2010, 12:31:21 AM

I've been investigating this recently, because I've been getting requests for links to a "dead" but high social profile site - nobody visits that site but I have a social group ready to resurrect it.

This is just one way that people keep the rank up -

Somebody catches a domain that has dropped with significant page rank. They put a site up quickly, then send out link exchange requests to anything remotely connected - "I'll give you a front page link on my PR5 site if you do the same for me".

The other party checks the domain rank, and it is PR5, the ranking on the "rating sites" does not fall until about 3 weeks after the domain dropped. They go ahead and swap links, then get on with life - and the new domain owner collects a bunch of links to reinforce the Page Rank rating.

There are other ways to keep the rank high, but you can be assured that those domains which do not appear to lose ranking are being held there by a lot of hard work immediately after they drop.

vizzo · 14-09-2010, 08:13:54 AM

Ok - going to slightly hijack my own thread here. Was originally interested in a broad range of people's experiences at the % that they can keep PR.

Now some fresh questions:

1. Are there any tools available to non-nominet people to find a) historical PR in general and b) the PR on the day it drops.
2. The only place I've found such info is at unwanted-domain -names. Any views as to how reliable their info is?
3. Don't understand the comment from Crabfoot that the ranking on "rating sites" does not fall until 3 weeks after the domain dropped. All the sites I've checked that unwanted-domains says has a PR are returned as "not in index" when I use a PR checking site. Is it that some sites are still in the index and these are the only ones worth going for if you want to keep the PR
4. For those that have replied so far - did your sites fall out of the index, lose PR, then get re-indexed and regain their PR or did they always stay in the index and keep their PR?
5. If they fell out of the index did you use the Google resubmit form or just wait till Google refound the site naturally through links?
6. If they lost PR and then regained it, how long did it take?

crabfoot · 15-09-2010, 04:43:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vizzo

3. Don't understand the comment from Crabfoot that the ranking on "rating sites" does not fall until 3 weeks after the domain dropped. All the sites I've checked that unwanted-domains says has a PR are returned as "not in index" when I use a PR checking site. Is it that some sites are still in the index and these are the only ones worth going for if you want to keep the PR

An explanation - the search engines do not check if a site has dropped, if the spiders can't find a previously indexed page they assume the site is "down", and a search will still show you the cached version of a high ranking page for a while after the site has been offline.

The PR is lost when all the cached pages have dropped out of the cache. But if you start building immediately, the spiders re-index the site, and if you use page (meta) titles that are the same as the old ones ...

rob · 15-09-2010, 04:50:08 PM

How are you all rebuilding the sites on dropped names?

Is it a case of nicking previous sites content and putting it up, or your own content?

crabfoot · 22-09-2010, 05:35:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

How are you all rebuilding the sites on dropped names?

Is it a case of nicking previous sites content and putting it up, or your own content?

In my case, I've not done it - I just read about it recently - but I'm about to have a go because this thread made me look at the drop lists ... now I'm in this situation -

http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/genera...tml#post275445

WTH any help appreciated.

11-09-2010, 04:56:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
vizzo Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 319 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 13)	Dropped domains - keeping Page Rank Just interested what people's experience is. As I understand it, dropped domains should lose PR (I think it was Matt Cutts at Google who said that). However that is not necessarily what we experience. So I'd be interested if people would estimate - what percentage of domains still have the original PR, two months after you re-registered them. To get the ball rolling my experience over a limited number of about 8 or 10 domains is 30% kept their PR __________________ Content Writing Available - good quality UK English

13-09-2010, 12:31:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
crabfoot Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 821 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 1)	I've been investigating this recently, because I've been getting requests for links to a "dead" but high social profile site - nobody visits that site but I have a social group ready to resurrect it. This is just one way that people keep the rank up - Somebody catches a domain that has dropped with significant page rank. They put a site up quickly, then send out link exchange requests to anything remotely connected - "I'll give you a front page link on my PR5 site if you do the same for me". The other party checks the domain rank, and it is PR5, the ranking on the "rating sites" does not fall until about 3 weeks after the domain dropped. They go ahead and swap links, then get on with life - and the new domain owner collects a bunch of links to reinforce the Page Rank rating. There are other ways to keep the rank high, but you can be assured that those domains which do not appear to lose ranking are being held there by a lot of hard work immediately after they drop. __________________ Cloud Factories ppi-info

14-09-2010, 08:13:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
vizzo Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 319 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 13)	Ok - going to slightly hijack my own thread here. Was originally interested in a broad range of people's experiences at the % that they can keep PR. Now some fresh questions: 1. Are there any tools available to non-nominet people to find a) historical PR in general and b) the PR on the day it drops. 2. The only place I've found such info is at unwanted-domain -names. Any views as to how reliable their info is? 3. Don't understand the comment from Crabfoot that the ranking on "rating sites" does not fall until 3 weeks after the domain dropped. All the sites I've checked that unwanted-domains says has a PR are returned as "not in index" when I use a PR checking site. Is it that some sites are still in the index and these are the only ones worth going for if you want to keep the PR 4. For those that have replied so far - did your sites fall out of the index, lose PR, then get re-indexed and regain their PR or did they always stay in the index and keep their PR? 5. If they fell out of the index did you use the Google resubmit form or just wait till Google refound the site naturally through links? 6. If they lost PR and then regained it, how long did it take? __________________ Content Writing Available - good quality UK English Last edited by vizzo; 14-09-2010 at 08:16:56 AM. Reason: spelling and added question

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rob Founding Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,977 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 37)	How are you all rebuilding the sites on dropped names? Is it a case of nicking previous sites content and putting it up, or your own content?