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Bailey · 11-07-2011, 05:05:39 PM

Funny enough. I know that a domain of mine is inplay literally from today - from very fundemental information that lands in your lap - and thats before I've been even asked if it's available.

The .com was listed as sold on DNJournal yesteday (So I Know that price) - new registrant has used a UK hosting service for the domain despite they being a Californian business entity - And yep the hyphenated .co.uk and the major tlds have also been acquired in the last few days mostly hand regged. Obviously I still hold the word pairing .co.uk - i think i'm even pretty sure what they are going to use the words for - which isn't obvious but quite clever when you think about it. today shows as day one of their site build (Coming soon type layout)

invistagative work about 15 mins - just through keeping a regular eye on Global domain sales.

pred · 11-07-2011, 05:33:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey

It' s very, very rare for a direct enquiry to use a traceble email account when enquiring about a domain whatever the nature of the transaction.

totally disagree
but thats just my experience

Bailey · 11-07-2011, 05:39:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pred

totally disagree
but thats just my experience

No problem Pred - I honestly think we work in completely different markets. But, I do know what works outside of the standard generics. .

wb · 11-07-2011, 05:43:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey

invistagative work about 15 mins - just through keeping a regular eye on Global domain sales.

Couldn't resist also spending a few minutes working out what your domain is.

Although the .com didn't sell for a huge amount, fingers crossed you get a call from them with a nice offer.

Bailey · 11-07-2011, 05:49:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wb

Couldn't resist also spending a few minutes working out what your domain is.

Although the .com didn't sell for a huge amount, fingers crossed you get a call from them with a nice offer.

WEll Well done mate for working it out - can you also guess what you think the application will be _ I'm just going to give this hint 'MP' Thats my gut instinct - but hopefully you've also just verfied the timeline events I mentioned above

Domains can be a great life sometimes

And strangely enough . i'm no good at word puzzles

wb · 11-07-2011, 06:04:41 PM

If we're both thinking of the same MP acronym, then that was my initial thought too. Little more digging looks like we're correct too, as they have filed multiple trademarks last month relating to exactly that. Before anyone asks, I won't be posting up what the domain is.

Without taking the thread too off topic, this does show it's always worth doing the research. However, I'm still sticking with my original trail of thought in that it's the domain that should have a price attached to it, not the person buying it. Doing research simply allows the domain to easily appreciate in value before you decide how much to let it go (to anyone) for.

Bailey · 11-07-2011, 06:20:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wb

I'm still sticking with my original trail of thought in that it's the domain that should have a price attached to it, not the person buying it. Doing research simply allows the domain to easily appreciate in value before you decide how much to let it go (to anyone) for.

I'm going to slightly disagree with you - In that I'm happy to be "A self righteous bastard - I meant facilitator" to a sale. I can usually identify with the buyer or at least try to.

I've sold domains well below what I think they're worth, but at the same time I believe they ended up with the right users.

Worse still talked one or two (four figure) buyers out of buying my domains as inappropriate for their use.

The plus side - Capitalise at will.

wb · 11-07-2011, 06:32:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey

I'm going to slightly disagree with you - In that I'm happy to be "A self rightous bastard - I ment facilitator" to a sale. I can usually identify with the buyer or at least try to.

Fair enough. I think our thoughts probably overlap somewhere inbetween, as I don't completely disagree but doing the research or working out what a buyer might want to use it for (i.e. something which hadn't come to mind before) could easily inflate the sale price to anyone.

I also enjoy the investigative side of things, so it's a bonus doing it. Like you say it's usually not impossible to identify the buyer, as almost everyone has a digital footprint making it quite easy with only basic knowledge.

Bailey · 13-07-2011, 12:01:00 AM

I'm personally hoping to see this thread develop a little more- It does (and has the potential) to open up that age old question - How do I price a domain ???

Anybody that has been around the block once or twice Knows there is no fixed or definitive answer. But there are steers that do rely on our individual experience - the parameters (domainer or end user) negotiating and communication skills. (professional or adhoc)

There's No right or wrong - I know i have scared a buyer or two away by coming across too knowing in the past - better to play the all 'under assuming party' until were talking final transaction.

I've learnt more from the buyers of my domains and their so varied operating parameters than from any proponent of sales and selling - And I've 20 years of history in selling.

Bailey · 14-07-2011, 11:59:18 PM

Just as a small futherance to the above - I am going to own up to having put probably on average at least an hour or Five of solid work with every sale I've ever made. Those working in strictly the 'generic' market have. I accept, very little to gain by the same approach.

I consider every domain i own a miniature work of art.
* It took time to pick the subject
* to grasp it's market relevance
* to imagine its width of application
* to define its 'correct' contextual structure
* to go out on a limb

If as i feel I've done most of the above with most of my domain registrations - be buggered if I would then sell it at a price or without a similar amount of repeated work.

Just a philosophy- which has served me well

11-07-2011, 05:05:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bailey Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Essex UK Posts: 1,619 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 4)	Funny enough. I know that a domain of mine is inplay literally from today - from very fundemental information that lands in your lap - and thats before I've been even asked if it's available. The .com was listed as sold on DNJournal yesteday (So I Know that price) - new registrant has used a UK hosting service for the domain despite they being a Californian business entity - And yep the hyphenated .co.uk and the major tlds have also been acquired in the last few days mostly hand regged. Obviously I still hold the word pairing .co.uk - i think i'm even pretty sure what they are going to use the words for - which isn't obvious but quite clever when you think about it. today shows as day one of their site build (Coming soon type layout) invistagative work about 15 mins - just through keeping a regular eye on Global domain sales. __________________ TheDon dot Com Last edited by Bailey; 11-07-2011 at 05:22:08 PM.

13-07-2011, 12:01:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
Bailey Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Essex UK Posts: 1,619 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 4)	I'm personally hoping to see this thread develop a little more- It does (and has the potential) to open up that age old question - How do I price a domain ??? Anybody that has been around the block once or twice Knows there is no fixed or definitive answer. But there are steers that do rely on our individual experience - the parameters (domainer or end user) negotiating and communication skills. (professional or adhoc) There's No right or wrong - I know i have scared a buyer or two away by coming across too knowing in the past - better to play the all 'under assuming party' until were talking final transaction. I've learnt more from the buyers of my domains and their so varied operating parameters than from any proponent of sales and selling - And I've 20 years of history in selling. __________________ TheDon dot Com

14-07-2011, 11:59:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bailey Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Essex UK Posts: 1,619 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 4)	Just as a small futherance to the above - I am going to own up to having put probably on average at least an hour or Five of solid work with every sale I've ever made. Those working in strictly the 'generic' market have. I accept, very little to gain by the same approach. I consider every domain i own a miniature work of art. * It took time to pick the subject * to grasp it's market relevance * to imagine its width of application * to define its 'correct' contextual structure * to go out on a limb If as i feel I've done most of the above with most of my domain registrations - be buggered if I would then sell it at a price or without a similar amount of repeated work. Just a philosophy- which has served me well __________________ TheDon dot Com Last edited by Bailey; 15-07-2011 at 12:17:47 AM.

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11-07-2011, 06:04:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
wb Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,922 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 29)	If we're both thinking of the same MP acronym, then that was my initial thought too. Little more digging looks like we're correct too, as they have filed multiple trademarks last month relating to exactly that. Before anyone asks, I won't be posting up what the domain is. Without taking the thread too off topic, this does show it's always worth doing the research. However, I'm still sticking with my original trail of thought in that it's the domain that should have a price attached to it, not the person buying it. Doing research simply allows the domain to easily appreciate in value before you decide how much to let it go (to anyone) for.