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Old 09-09-2011, 04:57:50 PM     #11 (permalink)

 
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My understanding was that it would prohibit the selling of details of potential claimants so it would include selling by insurance companies (feck knows why they do it), car repair companies, etc..... It would also stop the claims broker set-ups which to an extent I suppose some PI websites are, it was the claims brokering that was Lord Young's target in all this.

If so then it may not prohibit straightforward CPC.

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Old 09-09-2011, 05:11:20 PM     #12 (permalink)

 
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Its not firm yet and has been mooted before, so might not even occur. It wont make peoples car insurance cheaper though
I agree, the claims industry will find a way round it and premiums won't go down.

I firmly believe the growth of access to the internet and improvement in the quality of search engines is to blame for the proliferation of the claims culture and industry. I would hedge a bet that over 80% of low level claims are made by persons of below average intelligence and that without use of the internet most of these people would have been incapable of making these spurious claims. The internet has given the bottom 10% access to the brains of the top 10% on any specific subject but without the support structure of the ability to think laterally.

Once the internet started the ball rolling local government gave it an extra kick by being incompetent and fuelling the number of successful claims thus allowing ambulance chasers to build successful businesses and giving them the resouce to fighter longer legal battles against more competent companies and organisations.

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It was the internet that started the boost in these mate, it was the Insurance companies not wishing to challenge dubious claims.

When I worked in a Solicitors claims office years ago, not PI but was motor related. We all knew that anyone that said "whiplash" got a payout of £750

Nothing below a claim of £750 was challenged because of the potential costs of doctors and legal fees. By not challenging them to prove real injury the insurance companies have brought this on themselves.

If they did want to reduce the price of insurance, they should ban out of court settlements and have an independent tribunal who had to be assured of an genuine injury.

Any costs incurred because their client was lying about injury would be passed to prosecuting solicitors, that would sort all this out. Solicitors might start to ask their clients if they were seriously injured then before they took the case on.
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I firmly believe the growth of access to the internet and improvement in the quality of search engines is to blame for the proliferation of the claims culture and industry. I would hedge a bet that over 80% of low level claims are made by persons of below average intelligence and that without use of the internet most of these people would have been incapable of making these spurious claims. The internet has given the bottom 10% access to the brains of the top 10% on any specific subject but without the support structure of the ability to think laterally.
I think it's because of that huge rush of personal injury claim TV adverts on daytime TV that are/were shown in the ad breaks of Jeremy Kyle and similar

Though I suppose you could argue that they advertise websites via the TV...
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Personal Injury Fees to be Ended

If this would only go for uk companies I wouldn't mind to let the leads go via my Dutch company for a small fee



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You might not be allowed to sell the info but passing it on for free but getting a % of successful claims isn't illegal.

There's plenty other ways to get around it.
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You might not be allowed to sell the info but passing it on for free but getting a % of successful claims isn't illegal.

There's plenty other ways to get around it.

I doubt you could get away with saying you weren't selling data - you're just giving it up front and taking the money later. Thats selling, however you look at it.

If they do outlaw selling of the data, the simplest way around it will be to rent out the ranking site. You already know how much you are making from the leads from a site under the current business model, so just rent out the site to the exact same solicitor for the same price. Let him brand the site with his own logo, and put his own lead gen form and so on on it.

You'll take home the exact same amount of cash, and the solicitor will get the same number of leads. The only difference here being each side now holds a little risk in the site ranking changing - easily worked around by doing a rolling monthly contract so the exposure on either side is limited.
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Lets not forget the reason for these proposals have always been to curtail the esculating Road Accident claims. Having followed most of the announcements made over the past year. I doubt there will be any immediate impact on Claims sites - in general. In fact probably a short-term growth as claimants believe it effects all accident claims and try to get claims processed.

The long term picture is probably the one to take stock of at the moment. There is an underlying double-edged sword at work here.

1. If the govenment proposals are not effective in achieving the required halt to the 20-30% annual growth in claims, then anticipate stonger and more draconian measures to be introduced.

2. If on the other hand the proposals succeed, expect a wider reaching impact on the claims industry as further roll outs move onto medical and other areas.

The bottom line is the figures (and potential Spurious claims) had to be addressed. The clever money will be looking at the changing landscape, Not trying to circumnavigate the current proposals
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