UK piracy case

[BREWSTERS]

What do you think of this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-16544335

I'm sure he's not as naive as he's cracking on, but I don't like the US reaching out over here the way they do. Haven't they got any targets on their own soil?

[murph]

Bang out of order. He should be tried here.

[newguy]

It's disgusting. We extradite people to the States a whim here, but when the situation is reversed, we have to move heaven and earth. More poodle than bulldog at this rate.

[pred]

yup this is obscene, dont get me started on this

it wasn't a filesharing site.
he provdided some links. hes a decent guy at end of uni course, never been in trouble

this is worse than the lese majeste cases in thailand. well on a par
at least they waited for someone to walk through customs that dared to post a link to an unofficial autobigraphy about their royal family
and he was an american
along with numerous other cases
shows your nationality being British or American doesn't protect you anywhere in world anymore. used to mean something

say you were in u.s and shot someone and returned home. sure you would need to be extradited, but this is insane
theoretically millions of people could be extradited on this pathetic case

in the u.s eyes wikileaks is evil, virtually a terrorist anti-american site, which of course it's not
but they see it as an attack on them and 'illegal filesharing' I guess of 'classified info'

so when the guardian editors post links to wikileaks, which they do, and reproduce the info does that count? could they then be extradited? surely that is more serious in these nutcases eyes

they should have took domain at most for this imho and suspended hosting account. served a take down notice. companies who feel wronged could have taken a private copyright case. max imo
saved taxpayers a fortune on both sides too

the judges and politicians allowing this to happen should feel eternal; shame over this
standardin u.s prisons rape and murder etc
go watch a few videos of life in u.s prisons
. lock up etc

the crimes committed by the people making these 'decisions' on a global scale is staggering, they are criminals of the highest order, 'top ranking' politicians

and we don't even have the same extradition policy with u.s. not that we want it as costs fortune paid to scum lawyers from OUR taxes anyway
we need to pull away from the yanks big time, although with a tory government/coalition will only get worse, when tories get in fully
they are traditionally the biggest u.s arsekissers
maggie and reagan were virtually screwing
blair broke the mould. he was the ultimate traitor and committed our men and women to illegal wars and is personally responsible for deaths and suffering in the hundreds of thousands and pissed most of our 'civil rights' and bill of rights into the sea with u.s and eu


rant over

[Silverz]

I don't understand how they can even have a case against him, since anyone who knows about these types of sites, whether they be public torrent sites, private torrent sites or these new modern streaming sites know that no illegal content can be found on the website/servers, it's just ridiculous :/

[scooter]

This has been well organised, thought out and agreed upon long before they raided.

UK and USA raided. I think the UK will be happy as you can't get a stronger signal than this. Feck with the big boys of film copyright and you are off to the good ol US of A.


Speaking before the hearing, Mr O'Dwyer said he was "surprised" when police officers from the UK and America seized equipment at his home in South Yorkshire in November 2010.
Why? He cannot claim innocence with setting up p2p sharing copyrighted material worldwide with all cases that had gone before. Was he declaring his £150,000 earnings?

This is not a victimless crime and he has gained substantially from it. That is a lot of money. (£75K a year) I know with these things they normally exaggerate "potential income". I think with this it will actually be earned income.

I would love to read more. Like visitors and what country his server(s) location.




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[scooter]

Originally Posted by Silverz

I don't understand how they can even have a case against him, since anyone who knows about these types of sites, whether they be public torrent sites, private torrent sites or these new modern streaming sites know that no illegal content can be found on the website/servers, it's just ridiculous :/

Sorry, I disagree. It is the vessel that brings all together to share copyrighted content for free. Without the vessel, there would be no sharing. (at least, not on the same colossal scale)



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[pred]

Originally Posted by scooter

Sorry, I disagree. It is the vessel that brings all together to share copyrighted content for free. Without the vessel, there would be no sharing. (at least, not on the same colossal scale)



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so every search engine owner in world should be in dock
for piracy, illegal pornography, terorrist sites etc etc
they are the true vessels

wait, the owners and holders of the root servers
and icann, and the regsitries etc

this wouldn't even get to court in uk
if it did it would be by copyright holders themselves not gov imo who would have to bring case

[pred]

this is copyright infringement via links, no more
if anyone thinks it is ok for a british national to be extradited to nutjob america for this then i hope it's not your son, cousin or you next

copyright now
what about trademark infringement
most every domainer has one or two whether they know it or not. usually not as they are subjective sometimes

what if wipo stops, udrp stops and cops take that over
cops have already took over seizing domains for illegal activity on both sides of atlantic without any right of reply or hearing
and these are people who are years behind traditionally in understanding technology and all the repurcussions

draconian times

[Silverz]

Originally Posted by scooter

Sorry, I disagree. It is the vessel that brings all together to share copyrighted content for free. Without the vessel, there would be no sharing. (at least, not on the same colossal scale)



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People will find a way if they want to download copyrighted content, if this type of thing happens on a larger scale then it will be driven more underground, but it will still happen. There are so many more less obvious ways with which content is shared, from IRC to Usenet.

Should we stop sales of kitchen knives just on the off chance some nutter may go on a killing spree ? or household chemicals in case someone tries to poison themselves or others...it's not the vessel but an individuals choice.