jamesemark

Hi everyone, posted for the first time on this forum last night, I have to say great response and constructive comments (although I didn’t agree with them all.

Starting doing website design about 15 years ago, then moved into website marketing, SEO and adwords then moved into database mining about 10 months ago.

We work for a couple of companies directly doing lead generation cost per lead or by way of virtual sale taking a larger commission on sales.

We have about 200 domains mainly affiliate marketing sites

I look forward to hearing your views and comments on the forum

Bailey

A belated welcome,

I'm sure your contributions will also be very welcome - you certainly woke-up the night-time crowd.

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jamesemark

well yes I did seem to be the entertainment for the evening

Domainate

Hi James,

Interesting history you have there. Do you primarily register the domains you get or do you do backorders or buy on secondary market?

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jamesemark

I tend to just buy the domains as and when I need them. The main thing is to have the keywords in the domain. If the competition for that keywords isnt silly, most sites can be on the front page within 10 to 12 weeks.

I did think about secondary market place but to be honest the money you spend is better spent on SEO or even adwords. Its just my view of course, and it works for me.

HBFinvestmentproperties for example was built in Dec 2009, by Feb we were on the front page for "investment properties". I think we are now 3 or 4 on google.

what are you up too?

Domainate

I suppose it may not matter as much for .co.uk. We deal mainly in com/net/org domains (primarily generic keyword but also some brandable and aged domains) and getting decent quality com/net/org domains that are available is getting harder and harder. We just buy and sell domains with some brokering/consulting, no development or anything. I've been doing it for about 7 years now, 3 and a half years full-time.

Buying on secondary market really depends on where you're looking. If you're looking on Sedo or Afternic, it will probably be hard to find a good deal. On forums though, you're more likely to get wholesale pricing from people vs. retail, and a domain that could easily hand you a top ranking without much more work involved may not cost as much as you think.

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jamesemark

Thats really good, I didnt think there was that much money in domains without listings or at least a PR rating.

Domainate

My philosophy is to get domains based on the things that for the most part don't change - name quality, strong extension, and age. PR comes and goes like the wind on many domains and if a bad domain with PR is bought, it's completely worthless if it loses that PR. Ultimately, SEO benefits of exact keyword matching domains, especially in primary extensions like com/net/org, weigh heavily enough that I've had no shortage of buyers for such names over the past few years, and likewise the benefit of domain age has brought many buyers looking for those as well (though name quality is still generally more important in such names - i.e. if it's a brandable aged domain, it still has to be a solid quality brand potential).

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good luck

Domainate

Thanks! FYI since you signed up to DailyDomainNames.com updates, we just posted a new list there about an hour ago.

Honestly I think there's room for both mentalities by the way - people going after PR/links and people going after name quality and/or age - I'm sure some people have SEO expertise such that domains with heavy links/PR benefits them the most while others have different expertise such that exact keyword match and/or aged domains benefit them the most. There's many different realms of opportunity in domains, SEO and development and most people gravitate towards only one or a couple of them. I have actually had and sold PR domains and do have a few still with PR, but honestly I'm better at going after name quality and age than PR. It's all a matter of opportunity vs. the competition to seize that opportunity, and PR to me is too competitive an area to target and not one that I have much expertise in anyways.

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