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Old 03-04-2007, 11:35:00 AM     #21 (permalink)

 
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This is a tremendous thread.

I have tried the one page minisite thing with a car seats domain and it worked for a while as it hit the top of msn, but a few days later it is nowhere. However it has earned a total of $23.50 in about 6 months so, whilst not a champagne moment, it has paid for its keep and can be put on the prize shelf, as it gets the occasional income.

I am also trying with a whole load of zero/low traffic domains to develop sites slowly, in bulk, using available content, but fed in every week or so as if the site is being built.

It has so far listed all the domains in the search engines, which is a start, although I don't think they rank particularly highly. It has increased traffic from 300 a day to 2500 a day on average (in 4 months) and increased revenue from about £0.80 to about £3.00 a day - but this is for the whole lot of them together, so is nowhere near break even.

There are a whole load of things to do to increase this, including much better site design, better ad placement, different ad feed (I am using Miva at the moment), better more unique content etc etc. And spending a whole load more time on it.

I'll let you know how it goes once it starts to break even.

I think Scott, your comment about putting a gadget on the site is spot on. People will bookmark it just so they can use that gadget occasionally.

Tommy, your full on sites are great.

I think with BFTUK and Murph and mibut's seo skills and rob's domains we can all make a good living

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I would suggest that with your car seats domain the main problem could be it wouldn't actually have much unique content on it, having unique content is quite important and worth the extra legwork to get as it pays for itself longer and doesn't risk your website being seen as duplicate content.
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Agreed.

Yesterday, its all very well having feeds into the site but you won't rank anywhere on google with duplicate content.
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I would suggest that with your car seats domain the main problem could be it wouldn't actually have much unique content on it, having unique content is quite important and worth the extra legwork to get as it pays for itself longer and doesn't risk your website being seen as duplicate content.
yes but where do you find unique content, what sites are best for this. I tend to use istock.com for my images as i know i will be safe using them but actually getting unique content is a pain to find at times.
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I put in time but still failed to make it unique

I just searched for snippets on google and whahey it's everywhere!!

Lesson 1.

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yes but where do you find unique content, what sites are best for this. I tend to use istock.com for my images as i know i will be safe using them but actually getting unique content is a pain to find at times.
Yes istock is good for images.

Well, this is how my train of thought has worked recently.....say I bought artofwar.co.uk from Deconstruction that would be a good domain for some sort of military tactic website, who would have already written about military tactics (or many other subjects) that would have it in electronic format but not available on the internet already......students! they have to research & write about such variety of things all the time....must contact students and buy essays cheap for beer money....or maybe google to see if such a site already sells them......


There are webmaster forums where you can pay someone to write an article for $8 on any subject you want but chances are that type of route will end up with a crappy article so one that has had a little thought put into it is preferable and easily worth $10-$20 IMO
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If you can't write your own content which is always best, one place you could get some unique content from is archive.org.

Look for an old site/domain (either one that is now parked or has dropped) and then use the old content that site used years ago, just check it's not still being used on another site

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If you can't write your own content which is always best, one place you could get some unique content from is archive.org.

Look for an old site/domain (either one that is now parked or has dropped) and then use the old content that site used years ago, just check it's not still being used on another site
Good tip.....

I've had some success re-writing articles in the past.

Take a given subject find a couple of artilces and use them as a base, but substaincially change the structure and wording. Not ideal but workable....
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yes but where do you find unique content, what sites are best for this. I tend to use istock.com for my images as i know i will be safe using them but actually getting unique content is a pain to find at times.

There's loads of free article sites, where for the additional line of where you got it from (and you don't always need to do this if you do as above & use as a base. Same with aggregated magazine ads) you can get contextual articles on just about anything...

http://www.articlesbase.com/
http://www.articlecity.com/
http://www.articlesbase.com/
http://www.articlesfactory.com/
http://www.articles-hub.com/
http://www.findarticles.com/
http://www.articlerich.com/

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Yes istock is good for images.

Well, this is how my train of thought has worked recently.....say I bought artofwar.co.uk from Deconstruction that would be a good domain for some sort of military tactic website, who would have already written about military tactics (or many other subjects) that would have it in electronic format but not available on the internet already......students! they have to research & write about such variety of things all the time....must contact students and buy essays cheap for beer money....or maybe google to see if such a site already sells them......


There are webmaster forums where you can pay someone to write an article for $8 on any subject you want but chances are that type of route will end up with a crappy article so one that has had a little thought put into it is preferable and easily worth $10-$20 IMO
if the name dont sell i might try a quick develop on this name

i put up the site www.thedietshop.co.uk - did no work on it.. (content is unique because i spent 2 mins hacking it up).

did zero seo, just put a single link to the site from my footer on this forum. within a week it was getting traffic. took about 6 months to make the reg fee i think (maybe less) and make very little a month.

However i am sure with some effort (just a little) it could make more. I did this as a test, but have been too busy to carry it on.

also if you use elance.com / guru.com you can get people to write articles for web sites for about £3-£5 an article (if they are short) £6-£12 if need to be longer.
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