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Hello all,

Been preety quiet recently with my none website related business, i play about with mini sites as a bit of a hobby and have a few that dont really make much money but i still seam to spend alot of my time playing about with them and like the challenge of getting them to the top off the search engines...

anyway just wanted to know if anyone makes a full time living of mini sites on here? ie £300 + a week, if so how many sites do you have and what with affiliates, storeburst, adsense?

I`m thinking of going to college to do a course on web design or seo to try and make an income via personel websites and make a living..

thanks for any comments/advice

RSK3000

With a living wage probably nearer £500 per week after expenses, this is a tough thing to do just with mini sites. However, its not impossible. If thats your aim I would guess you need to be thinking about selling things such as information products/ downloadable software and things like that.

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slowhost

Thanks for the response,

well i was thinking 20 sites all making around £20 a week would cover it without any expenses being needed bar domain and hosting, I`d be impressed if any novice web designer (like me) makes that but i`m betting someones out there does...I believe its all about the hits...

I personally dont think the product has to be that important (probably wrong) i mean :

if youve got a domain getting 500+ hits a day there is alot of money to be made off a combination of adsense, affiliates, selling banner space ect but getting that ammount of hits is the hard part in my mind...

I know if i had a domain that got that sort of traffic everyday no matter what the subject i`d be onto a winner but to this day i havent made or bought it, altho i keep looking and trying...

I know no one will want to let onto the sites they make money on but if anyone would like to divuldge an average ammount you make from a single "minisite" (under 20 pages) in a week i`d be gratefull as it would help me with my decision...

woopwoop

For me (for most of my websites) it's the opposite. Even my websites with 500+ uvs a day, it's not translating into clicks. Also PPC rates seem to have gone to the floor

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springer

I think it is very possible to be making good money from adsense with one page (600-1000 word content) plus privacy policy and about page.

This method is discussed here: http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/mini-s...tml#post221519

What do those one page adsense sites look like?
Kettler Rowing Machine page one in google.

I wouldn't rely on Adsense to earn a living from though.

slowhost

I`d love to have a site with 500 hits a day,

i spose it does matter what industry the name is in, but i had a few sites with adsense, and never made more than £5.00 a week on adsense,

i`ve heard of ppl making hundreds a week with adsense tho and i`m only guessing thats with alot of hits...but i`m not a fan of it anymore..

i think if your getting 500+ hits to your site everyday you could sell advertising space on it for that industry for a large sum..and sack the adsense off...

woopwoop

I agree with both of these points.

It really depends what you want to do with a website. Even if the goal is to make money there are 2 choices:

(1) make money in a way which may be sustainable - very useful content, very stick website, return visitors, links will come without trying too hard or

(2) build sites which have adsense strategically positioned, ad units all over, some content to draw traffic and focus on building the links.

And then there's a mixture of the two options or even having some sites in each category.

I can't retire yet though

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accelerator

I would try and do more business analysis, think hard about how to identify what the profitable sectors on the internet are. It's not purely about raw click numbers, there are so many more factors than that. One thing that helped me was an interest in investment and reading the Investor's Chronicle for years before moving into the internet, as that gave me a good "feel" for profitability. Watch the adverts on TV and take note which adverts are on more often and think why etc etc.

Another thing, I would focus on affiliate networks rather than AdSense, because commission levels are much higher with affiliate commissions. Join the networks and go looking for the high payout areas by looking at the merchant commission levels being offered.

Rgds

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RSK3000

There are many routes to the £300 a week you are after. People make money online in all sorts of ways and you have to find the way thats right for you because you will be spending a lot of time with these sites.

Minisites seem a good idea. They are generally 'build and forget' which means they generate revenue without you doing much to them. Be aware that, depending on the niche you might end up having to build 100+ sites. Also, it takes time to organise the content, do the SEO stuff and get backlinks. From what I have read, £20 per month seems to be more realistic and you might have to build 150 sites to get 100 that generate £20 consistently. Niche selection and high paying keywords are fairly important as well.

Thats why some people advocate the creation of a smaller number of 'authority sites'. You can dominate a niche, especially if the sites appeal to a similar group/ niche. Your site becomes the site people go to when they want to get the latest news/ gossip whatever.

Either way if you are going for a simple ad revenue business model you may end up having to produce 1000 + pages, and probably much more, before you see decent money coming in.

Here is an interesting thread from another forum, (from 2006 but still valid) that readers of this thread might find of interest.
My Bank Statement - Monthly Earnings from AM - SitePoint Forums

The point is people are making money both ways.................

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snooze

I try to mix the type of sites that I have - even though most of them use adsense. I find technology sites difficult to maintain because of the constant change and fight to keep your ranking.

So think carefully about your business model, subject area and the time need to get the return you want.