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Old 30-04-2012, 10:52:18 PM     #21 (permalink)

 
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its very hard to tell right now if it is "dirty links" or anchor text distribution.

I'm not convinced at the spun junk links being dead theory.

Still plenty of sites ranking on them right now. In fact a few sites who i've seen on some dirty dirty public networks are still sat there no1.

Methinks methunks this is an external links anchor distribution issue eg Over optimisation.

I'm going to blast a load of fresh links into a site and water the hell out of it and see what happens.
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yes

Issue is Rob what is shit????? Pre April 24 those links were good.

Google are now playing with dirty link ratios and hence you can take a competitor out by just messing with their profile.....that is a serious issue. It changes the rules from no longer the best winning, to the best dirty person winning.....thats a serious ethics switch. One is building something, one is destroying something.

I am seeing lots and lots of sites and pages dead and when I look at the back links they look ok to me.

So many people have gotten a dodgy link here or there and almost every seo agency/company has at some point gotten dirty links.

It feels like the web has started again. I am seeing loads of terms where the place was jammed with big established brands and now they are all gone to be replaced with some crappy site.

The money to be made now is finding the places that the established players have been all killed and taking those spots

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Surely if you have a page that's been hit, the last thing you want to do is 301 it to another page.

If you do that then you'll just be sending the penalty to the next page, and if they are trying to tackle dodgy linking practices, like building loads of links to a page on site A, and then redirecting that page to a page on site B, then you might end up doing more damage rather than helping yourself.

It all depends on how they're defining bad links, and what exactly they're targeting.

I think the better solution would be to simply change the name of the page as you suggested, and leave it at that - then build a few links to that new page.

All the old links point to a non existant page - maybe 301 them instead to Matt Cutts website and see what hapens.
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Ive made some changes to a site that jumped right down to page 28 and woke up this morning to find it sitting on page 12.

The changes i made:
1. Changed Page titles
2. Removed afiliate window ads (replaced with adsense)
3. added a little more content.

I am going to let it settle a little more before i make changes to the internal link structure.

Also going to have a look at alt tags, as ive noticed a fair few sites that are ranking well are not using their main keywords in any alt tags, where as i did. im wondering if this also applies to images names made up of keywords, just checked one good ranking site this morning and their logo is logo.jpg where as mine is keyword-logo.jpg

Just thought id share my experience so far, ill keep you posted on any gains or tanks as i go along.
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I'm not even sure its a page penalty mate - I think its a possibly a keyword penalty based on anchor text.

One of the main sites im tracking has pages that still rank as before for long tail but the same page has died for the phrase which has been over targeted with anchors.

So the whole page hasnt died - just what I over targeted.
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keyword penalty based on anchor text - yes

we are seeing similar....updated my original post again



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Looks like c-rentals/co.uk took a bit of a bashing Doug?



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Surely if you have a page that's been hit, the last thing you want to do is 301 it to another page.

If you do that then you'll just be sending the penalty to the next page, and if they are trying to tackle dodgy linking practices, like building loads of links to a page on site A, and then redirecting that page to a page on site B, then you might end up doing more damage rather than helping yourself.
Unless a 301 redirect does not pass penalties, only link juice?

In the practice of payday loans sites, changing domain names/websites every 6-8 weeks and redirecting the old domain to the new, the new site ranking fairly averagely due to being sand-boxed, with the additional "bonus" of having inbound links via the 301 redirect boosting it to the top (or near to) of page 1.

Remain top (or near to) for 6-8 weeks until the sandbox effect dies off and the 301 redirect is discovered via Google algorithm. (During the 6-8 week period of being sand-boxed, design and develop a new website ready for next 301 redirect, maybe get some automated, dirty links inbound for additional mini-boost/indexing)

Rankings drop on 6-8 week old domain/site, then just set your new website/domain live and so the cycle continues?
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