Time to kill off sedo

rob · 02-07-2011, 11:32:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bailey

I am going to disagree on your first points Ron Jackson and Sedo have a good bit of history - All their sales above US$1K are reported - unless specifically requested otherwise.

Yes, thats what I meant, they are not reported as they are requested not to. I think sedo charge extra for this privacy but the bigger deals I had heard of had this chucked in free.

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I agree with you about the parking-pages and possible infringements. Those of us that were registering domains as early 90's are always at the possible "Whip-end" of somebodies late arrival. I supposedly had a account rep overseeing my portfolio at a well known parking company (Not Sedo) anybody would have thought he went out of his way to step-on-toes. So no I don't park anywhere unless it's overwhelmingly generic

Even generic stuff can be at risk by 'automated' systems.

In terms of people stepping on toes, it comes back to whos interests they represent. If you are a parking company employee your first loyalty is to the company not the client, and increasing rev, sorry, optimising a portfolio is dead easy if you increase risk.

Rob_F · 02-07-2011, 11:35:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brassneck

Also, I am having a lot of success with www.bodis.com. Parking revenue is higher than Sedo and I have been getting 10 times the domain enquiries which you receive directly.

Example landing page here - www.harpenden.org.uk

Stephen.

Do you think having perspective buyers have to make there offer in USD puts them off at all?

Some I'd want to park, others I'd want to go directly to a 'for sale' lander.

How's ND these days from domain selling/parking perspective?

I do like Sedo's negotiation system but there's no way I'm prepared to pay 15% commission so I need to look at other options.

On reflection, a custom build is probably the way forward as I'm not sure I'd want to list all of my domains on a central site. I'll probably go down the custom lander route, but with some sort of negotiation functionally similar to what Sedo offer.

P.S: You can select that Sedo 'for sale' lander via your CP.

- Rob

aZooZa · 02-07-2011, 11:37:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rob

re: Azooza

It can make a difference legally where transactions occur, or acts of abuse.

This is one of the reasons why I prefer not to use Escrow.com , likewise with Sedo when I had a dispute taking legal action would have required to do it in Germany as their 'UK base' was all but fiction.

For odds and sods it probably would not matter, but for bigger stuff it is something that is worth factoring in.

I understand that. I can see no mention of any legal entity in the PRC in any of their disclaimers and T&Cs, nor the name of any responsible individual. Just "Bodis". Doesn't sit well with me either.

rob · 02-07-2011, 11:41:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aZooZa

I understand that. I can see no mention of any legal entity in the PRC in any of their disclaimers and T&Cs, nor the name of any responsible individual. Just "Bodis". Doesn't sit well with me either.

That address also seems to be a forwarding company http://www.eto.cn/contact.asp

Agreed with the 'doesnt sit well' comment.

Brassneck · 02-07-2011, 12:18:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_F

Do you think having perspective buyers have to make there offer in USD puts them off at all?

On reflection, a custom build is probably the way forward as I'm not sure I'd want to list all of my domains on a central site. I'll probably go down the custom lander route, but with some sort of negotiation functionally similar to what Sedo offer.

P.S: You can select that Sedo 'for sale' lander via your CP.

- Rob

Thanks Rob.

There is a comments box on the Bodis contact link - people have used that quite often - no evidence that the $ is a problem. Across 4,000 domains getting 2 or 3 enquiries per day resulting in about 2 or 3 sales per week. Not huge prices but plenty for XXX which suits me. Equivalent domains with Sedo virtually nothing - don't buyers have to pre-reg at Sedo etc first - that must put a lot off.

As for custom landers, if you use adsense to monetise (and I have seen others on here using it) isn't there a massive risk of getting your adsense account banned due to having it on low content pages. No expert but I think this is a risk. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if earnings were pretty good while it lasted though.

Stephen.

pred · 02-07-2011, 09:32:22 PM

MASSIVE OWN GOAL for sedo this
they are getting slaughtered on forums and blogs. awful pr getting indexed and frankly i love it

get delisting those domains and requesting account closure guys

probably 80% of all domains listed are by pureplay domainers on the major boards, the rest from the BIG domainers like schilling and buydomains who sell mainly through direct enquiries and their own sites anyway

a grassroots movement could take them out in weeks

its what the general public should do with the gutter press
if people stopped buying the sun, star, mail, express etc they would disappear and go bankrupt in days/weeks

we can dream

foz · 02-07-2011, 11:31:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bailey

I am going to disagree on your first points Ron Jackson and Sedo have a good bit of history - All their sales above US$1K are reported - unless specifically requested otherwise.

Sedo are selective in what they release, I have sold plenty over that threshold and they go unreported. Which is fine by me.

pred · 02-07-2011, 11:40:33 PM

Foz you must have it in your settings not to report your sales
i requested this as standard unless there was one i wanted to report for whatever reason, then you can contact them

i sell almost exclusively on my sales venues so release that data to get more exposure for ME and my sales sites, not sedo or any other

however, they have the cheek to charge an additional 2.5% to buyers NOT to release sales prices if they want to keep quiet. thats a chunk of change if a million dollar sale

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Additional fee if buyer requests non-release of price and domain record

http://www.sedo.com/us/about-us/price-list/

2.5% of sales price

foz · 02-07-2011, 11:43:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Edwin

Why?

It costs REAL MONEY - lots of it - to hire a sales force, to snail mail out custom sales proposals and respond to enquiries, to hit the phones to drum up interest in a domain, to take out targetted ads in relevant niche publications and on category-specific websites, and to do all the other things that a truly PROACTIVE brokering service would have to do in order to drive sales volumes and create end-user interest where currently there's none.

That's probably why nobody's doing it at the moment, but if there's a hole in the market it's what I've identified above, not something to sell low-end domains (for which there's alreay Acorn, DL, Afternic, Sedo, eBay, NamePros, *******, A4U, etc. etc.)

Sedo is the eBay/Gumtree of domaining, but there's potentially a need for a Christies or a Sotheby's.

The selective process for a start. A Sotheby's type wouldn't even want .uk on its books. It would be .com all the way.

If you did have a premium after-market site it wouldn't cater to the masses and that's where the volume is.

Having an aftermarket site that caters to all with perhaps a premium section would be the only viable way in terms of turnover (volume) to have any chance of success.

I wouldn't class Sedo as an Ebay. Sedo volume would far exceed what Ebay do.

foz · 03-07-2011, 12:01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_F

Do you think having perspective buyers have to make there offer in USD puts them off at all?

Yes. � for UK buyers is a must. It reflects that the seller or broker is familiar to that market.

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02-07-2011, 09:32:22 PM	#66 (permalink)
pred Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,268 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 105)	MASSIVE OWN GOAL for sedo this they are getting slaughtered on forums and blogs. awful pr getting indexed and frankly i love it get delisting those domains and requesting account closure guys probably 80% of all domains listed are by pureplay domainers on the major boards, the rest from the BIG domainers like schilling and buydomains who sell mainly through direct enquiries and their own sites anyway a grassroots movement could take them out in weeks its what the general public should do with the gutter press if people stopped buying the sun, star, mail, express etc they would disappear and go bankrupt in days/weeks we can dream

02-07-2011, 11:40:33 PM	#68 (permalink)
pred Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,268 No Classified Ratings Domain Trader Rating: (100% / 105)	Foz you must have it in your settings not to report your sales i requested this as standard unless there was one i wanted to report for whatever reason, then you can contact them i sell almost exclusively on my sales venues so release that data to get more exposure for ME and my sales sites, not sedo or any other however, they have the cheek to charge an additional 2.5% to buyers NOT to release sales prices if they want to keep quiet. thats a chunk of change if a million dollar sale quote: Additional fee if buyer requests non-release of price and domain record http://www.sedo.com/us/about-us/price-list/ 2.5% of sales price