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Old 23-07-2012, 08:01:23 PM     #1 (permalink)

 
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Registration to Monetisation In 24Hrs Pls

Some serious skills here. Love Alien's web knockups, been thinking [only a newbie so stand to be told off yet again], would like to be able to register, jump into a Forum where I can get a template based [bespoke logo] knocked up, jump into another Forum to get instant SEO, and put said web on the market within 24hrs, all without fuss pls. Thinking a sort of Shiply style system right in here?

Pls share thoughts, constructive ones. Ta.
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Personally ive give up with quick build sites.

They never seem to rank as well as those you have taken your time to research, build and add quality content on a regular basis. Often mini sites are built on the hope of earning you a few extra quid and from my personal experience they are often built on topics which you have no passion for, which means you get bored and lose interest very easy!

As i was stuck for time i had some sites / content done for me which was spot on but getting them to rank was a lot harder than i thought, i weighed up how long it would take to earn my money back and realised it just wasnt worth it. I cut my losses and now only focus on sites that interest me (Karting).

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Well I seem to be one of the only people still working on mini sites to get my passive income up...

My latest project is to rank an EMD with just directory links - I'm #9 in google at the moment with that one.

I'm a good all rounder so I can catch a domain, knock up a site, create content and SEO all myself so the cost is pretty much zero.

I'm going for adsense & volume so my EMDs tend to have 10k+ exacts local and 50K+ global but with low CPC and low competition... instead of going for 4/5 x £2 clicks per day, I'm going for 15/20 x £.50p clicks.

Saying that - it's a long term project and I've only just started so I'm only on around £30 per month at the moment but I'm going to stick at it.

If I were you, I'd learn how to do it yourself - it's not that tricky and it stacks up financially.
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All do-able, just have to carry this out the right way.

The problem you have is not to get a website, with basic SEO, live in 24 hours (that's the easy bit). The far harder part is getting traffic in and them spending money in 24 hours (instant SEO only) - or clicking on your adsense ads.

I'm not going to say getting traffic within 24 hours via the search engines is not possible because it is - (I've done so in the past fortnight and had 75 uniques on the strength of - not earth shattering in 8th place for targeted keyword, but as it increases so will visitors and revenue).

Figure a way of getting overnight visitors without cost and this time next year you could be a millionaire.
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I'm a good all rounder so I can catch a domain, knock up a site, create content and SEO all myself so the cost is pretty much zero.
The cost is not zero, the cost is your time. Even if you only pay yourself minimum wage 24hrs = £120. If you pay yourself even a very basic £15 as an IT contractor 24hrs = £360. Yes mini sites take comparitively very little time but they also make comparitively very little money. How long does it take to earn back that £400? What else could you be doing with your time that would be more productive?

And if you can command a higer rate for your time you will find you don't need to work as much time - leaving you more time to go out and play in the sunshine, spend with your family or anything else you fancy.
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True but some people (like me) actually enjoy building and ranking sites.. It's like putting a jigsaw puzzle together.

I generally do this in the evening when the kids are in bed or as a time filler - it's better than sitting around watching the dross that's on TV at the moment.
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The "time value" of your time is indeed key - I see so many sites for sale on Sitepoint, Flippa etc. where they allegedly made a "profit" of a few £hundred to a few £thousand in a year, but when you crunch the numbers in terms of hours-per-week that the owners spent updating them, it works out to well under minimum wage.

So it's important if you want to ever sell what you've built, but it's also important when you consider the "opportunity cost" i.e. could you have done something more rewarding with the same time. That's regardless of whether that reward is actual cash or something more emotionally/psychologically rewarding like reading a great book, playing with your kids etc. Would you "pay" a pound or so an hour to buy yourself more free time to do the stuff you love? If so, and if that's what your efforts work out as, then...
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True but some people (like me) actually enjoy building and ranking sites.. It's like putting a jigsaw puzzle together.

I generally do this in the evening when the kids are in bed or as a time filler - it's better than sitting around watching the dross that's on TV at the moment.
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it's also important when you consider the "opportunity cost" i.e. could you have done something more rewarding with the same time. That's regardless of whether that reward is actual cash or something more emotionally/psychologically rewarding like reading a great book, playing with your kids etc.
But for some of us geeks, it's an alternative to reading a great book; it's a hobby just like any other. It just happens to be a hobby where you can make money doing something you enjoy. I don't criticise people for watching TV because they don't earn any money whilst they're doing it.
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I have been building minisites in my spare time and usually design and write all the content personally so my outgoings are minimal. Yes it takes my time, but I already have a full time job so this is my spare time and all income is extra, whilst I wouldn't consider getting another paid job on top of my full-time job.

It's very easy to knock up a quick site and I once I have a good EMD I will try and get content etc on there as soon as possible and then see how I rank and how much traffic I get.

It's a waiting game but after a few weeks I will know whether the site has potential or not. If it isn't getting any traffic then I will decide whether it is worth the extra effort and if not I'll leave it as it is. If I'm getting traffic then it's time to add more content and get the site ranking higher as it has potential to earn.

It's definitely a long term game and you won't be earning after 24 hours, but it's a good way to get reglular income if you combine the revenue from all the sites.
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Made a mistake in using the word Monetisation, don't think you can go from registration to earning money within 24 hours, meant sellability within 24hrs. Was looking at Aliens mini sites some of which he is shifting for around the £70 mark, very attractive pricing to the general public in my view, and well it's £6 for a domain, can't see why it should take someone with relevant experience more than 2 hours to knock up a mini site that offers some sort of basic functionality affiliate income potential, and hour or so for another expert SEO said website. Production line if you like.

£15 per hour call it 4 hours, plus cost of the domain, hosting assumed, and thinking around £70 per site up for sale within 24 hours.

I'm assuming in this economy there's plenty of people with these basic skill sets who might offer these services for around the £15 per hour mark. Saw far more complex offers for around £40 not so long ago in here, content writing at £6 per 500 words etc. Talking about a forum dedicated to this.

Would like to be able to register and have a SEO'd site up with credible earning potential up within 24hrs that I can market for sale.

Can it be done, and secondly can it be done right through acorn?
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