A few of you may know I resell VoIP besides other things and run Hull VoIP co uk. I don't really push it to be honest or even try to SEO the site to rank higher, but have noticed over the months it climbing up from out of no-where to in the 1000's to the 100's and now today is at postion 41. Lets say sign up is 0 and current client base is 0 what kind of shinyness would it have as just a site if it carried on to page 1? Shiny i mean in every sense, value, to other VoIP companies. etc I only started to monitor it as I noticed in it's keyword phrases "VoIP" was out running all the long tail phrases. Any comments, ideas, help (on to page 1) would be much appreciated. ---- After thought ! Must cost a bit for Adwords to be on the first page of Google for the word "VoIP" and increasing.