...but sometimes it really does take the piss! A for sale page where the email addy doesnt work, admin@ also doesnt work and to top it all off the whois information is to an old address... Ive been delving into Google and the amount of effort im having to go through is madness, dissolved company names, new names and "house names" that seem to be different depending on which directory they are listed in. Is it normal to change your house name every couple of months? Maybe they dont want to sell the domain name, maybe they are part of an organised domain gang and are constantly on the run. Maybe because they have been so sloppy with the contact details I might actualy get a bargain because they have had "no offers"