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Discussion in 'Drop catching Domain Names' started by pfglee, Feb 20, 2005.

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  1. pfglee

    pfglee Member

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    I don't expect anyone to give away any secrets on the scripts that they may use to try to catch .co.uk names. But one thing I am curious about is are such scripts running from a desk-top (PC) application or from another server.

    I assume that such scripts will simply generate PGP signed emails to the Automaton trying to register the name just after it has dropped - am I on the right lines here - in a general sense.

    If this is the case then presumably the whole key to the success or otherwise is in the timing. With a limit of 1000 requests per day presumably the only way to improve your chances is to have mulitiple TAGS each of which has an allowance of 1000 requests.
     
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    They wont give the secrets away, the market is now too competitive so it is hard to answer your question as who knows? Either is possible but I would think Linux based systems are used more than Desktop Windows purely from a stability point of view.

    You are on the right lines.

    Using multiple tags (by the same person or connected persons) is against the Nominet terms and conditions for use of the Automaton:

    http://www.nic.uk/TagHolders/PrssWhoisAndAutomatonPolicies/PrssWhoisAndAutomatonAgreedPolicies.html

    So its 1,000 requests per rolling 24 hours (not per day).
     
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    domaingenius Well-Known Member

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    Have you got your own Tag ?. Surely you must use a script or do you
    do it manually ?.

    Regards

    DG
     
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    I'm trying to commission a package that will allow you to administer your TAG i.e reg names/renew/delete; basically all the things a TAG holder has to do through those control email templates shown on Nominet - http://www.nominet.org.uk/TagHolders/UsingTheAutomaton/Introduction/ All done through a WindowsXP user friendly interface.

    http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=247718

    Seems like there is no stock package available 'off the shelf' for doing this, so once (if) this gets done I may just dish it out as shareware, or charge a small nominal fee to help recoup outlay.

    Dave

    p.s Great site by the way... Donation on its way!
     
  6. pfglee

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    Thanks for the reply - as I said I don't really expect any trade secrets - just trying to get a handle on all of this.

    So if it is 1000 in a rolling 24 hour period then that is approx 41 requests per hour. But presumably the drops only happen between certain hours so that means more requests during those 'active' hours.

    So that seems to bring it down to this:

    a) knowing what day a domain drops on - presumably not TOO difficult
    b) knowing what time a domain is going to drop - presumably much more difficult.

    Do drops take place during the evening/early morning - I wonder!!

    Can't help but think that a little 'insider-knowledge' must be a valuable thing.
     
  7. AcornDomains.co.uk

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    Drops happen all day long 24x7 and are totally random, even Nominet do not know when a name will drop timewise.

    So likely the drop date can be worked out but the time is down to luck. For Pre Nominet domains, the drop date is random too.

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    But surely someone at Nomnet must set the cron job for the domains
    and would thus know what time it was set for ?

    DG
     
  9. AcornDomains.co.uk

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    As I understand it, the drops enter an automated random queue, which was designed in such a way that not even their staff can tell when a domain will drop.
     
  10. newbie.co.uk

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    I've been setting up my own scripts and have monitored when domains drop...

    1) Domains can drop anytime of day or night
    2) For the best domains you cannot wait for them to be on WHOIS
    3) Use your 1,000 wisely, there is much luck involved

    I use Linux with Cron jobs, three levels of script each dealing with direct requests, suspended checks and detagged checks.

    Hope this helps.
     
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