Discussion in 'Forum News & Feedback' started by fish, Nov 5, 2010.
nice idea, glad it's just on the home page though (else it'd be v. annoying/distracting)
Might be worth running the domains at random if possible. I don't spend much time on the homepage however, I would certainly click through if i saw a domain of interest.
would a vertical scroller on side panel of each page be better??
Not sure if scrolling helps, why not just present the info but smaller so can be seen at a glance?
A domainlore style tabbed system would be dead easy and quick to use.
Please don't go down that route!
It's bad enough on the homepage, but I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have something moving out of the corner of your eye on every single page...
I'm just experimenting, it may not stay at all! so your views are welcome
Sorry, but the ticker is vile IMO, I'm just glad I use this bookmark to access AD http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/search.php?do=getnew & not the homepage.
Trouble is with Acorn Auctions (again IMO) is that people can list any old tat in there at stupid prices, so I kinda looked at it a few times and then never went back.... sorry
Unfortunately you're spot on. It's full of junk (just look at the list of names on the FP of Acorn Auctions right now and that leaps out at you), and that's a very hard position to get back from. DomainLore keeps things on a MUCH tighter rein thanks to requiring people to pay to play unless their name is obviously "premium".
I have to agree with Edwin and Ty - we looked at the acorn auction site but it is confusing, some very poor domains listed and no active auctions seem to be taking place. How many domains have sold there?
Its part of a wider missed opportunity IMHO.
Acorn has quite a few people who dont post as much or have stopped posting altogether. Even in terms of Nominet, they used to post direct Why was / is that?
The brains, motivation and funding is out there to produce a 'trade' or 'community' (depending on pov) product - that encompasses this type of thing.
I think a Domainlore style product should have been part of this forum. Over the years there has been several off the shelf style auction sites launched by members and acorn but they have never taken off.
£270,000 in sales in a year, I doubt any seller would begrudge 10% if it went into a formal association that would spend that on things that help .uk domainers in a clear and transparent manner.
Combined parking pages, shared legal knowhow, concise collective replies to consultations, out of the box PR (ie. edwins trade stands).
People are doing odds and sods themselves but combined and done properly....?
I'm willing to act on people's ideas and preferences but need help delivering it since I am not a good coder.
How do we get there?
I don't use DL so not sure exactly how it works but not many (any?) of these would I consider premium:
You're missing the key point: they are ONLY showing on DL's homepage because they have BIDS on them.
No bids = no show!
If you want to list junk on DL you can, but you have to pay 10% of the starting reserve UP FRONT and also it won't show on the FP, but only on the Hidden Gems page. AFAIK you can't buy your way onto the FP of DL - though you can earn a spot either by getting a bid or by being judged "premium" by Denys.
Case in point: I listed a domain there a few weeks back at a starting price of 250 pounds. I had to pay 25 pounds to do so. Since it got no bids, I forfeited the 25 pounds AND the domain never got as far as DL's homepage.
Right OK, thanks for the clarification.
I have removed the ticker.
BTW, even though it's technically a competitor, I think it would be very useful to Acorn users if you showed DL auctions WITH BIDS on the Acorn homepage (in a static, non-scrolly way of course - not a ticker).
DL could eventually become what Sedo should have been but isn't - a UK specific auction site that actually drives sales.
To be honest, I don't see Acorn Auctions ever overtaking DL - some as yet unknown third party might, but not A.A. and especially not if you don't have the coding background. So there's only 2 ways to play it: "help" DL (which also helps the wider UK market) or pretend DL doesn't exist. Either way, A.A. is pretty much stuck in a rut that I can't see it getting out of.*
*NOTE: there may be some "disruptive" change that could be made to A.A. that I can't think of at the moment which would take it to the status of a serious contender. So it's not impossible - just hard to imagine.
Surely Acorn with a tighter auction site is the way to go?
How much would that cost to code up?
I already publish a page for that:
as I found their RSS feed was badly formatted for a nice Homepage box.
DL used to be here but left after getting bashed by AD members over T&Cs and me removing people's name from public posts. I don't work against them which is why I already promote them with a page.
I want to see successful DL auctions getting a regular airing in DNJournal reports. Perhaps you could also integrate pulling in the results into your domainprices.co.uk site if they're not already included.
Regardless of Denys' public participation, you should I would have thought be able to reach out via email and get his assistance on working out the necessary API/feed conversion or whatever would be needed. It helps him as well as domainprices.co.uk after all!
Members asked me not to do that as they are dealer prices that could harm them for end user sales!
The Auction script I have is very functional and coded in PHP, so I guess it comes down to what is wanted (or not wanted). I already recoded it to make simpler looking auction listings: http://www.acornauctions.co.uk/recent,option,auctions_show
I also thought of AA as a Sedo clone not a DL clone as in, aim for End User sales (I have made a sale though it) rather than trade sales between domainers.
How do you all see the difference? or can 1 site do both?
How do you filter what is allowed and what isn't to improve the chances of sales?
Separate names with a comma.