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  1. admin Spain

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    I've negotiated with Nokta Domains for them to send me their domain sales records once a month for Domain Prices.

    They kindly sent me their sales year to date which I have just put into Domain Prices, but here is the list in isolation:


    Maternity-Clothes.co.uk $999 £645 2010-01-07
    HouseSign.co.uk $1,000 £645 2010-01-10
    PrivatePensions.co.uk $550 £355 2010-01-12
    MoneyReview.co.uk $399 £257 2010-01-12
    OvulationTests.co.uk $1,100 £710 2010-01-09
    FootballForm.co.uk $499 £322 2010-01-09
    SnowboardingInstructor.co.uk $199 £128 2010-01-09
    SnowboardingInstructors.co.uk $199 £128 2010-01-09
    UpvcPatioDoors.co.uk $399 £257 2010-01-09
    UpvcConservatory.co.uk $2,400 £1,548 2010-02-03
    Caravan-Insurance.co.uk $2,800 £1,806 2010-02-04
    MessengerBags.co.uk $1,800 £1,161 2010-02-08
    AcrylicMirror.co.uk $500 £323 2010-02-08
    PianoTabs.co.uk $2,050 £1,323 2010-02-09
    FoamPackaging.co.uk $800 £516 2010-02-10
    LocalVenues.co.uk $199 £128 2010-02-11
    ElectricMopeds.co.uk $650 £419 2010-02-18
    NameNecklaces.co.uk $1,200 £774 2010-02-22
    PianoTab.co.uk $609 £393 2010-02-23
    RoofCoating.co.uk $1,200 £774 2010-03-03
    MediationTraining.co.uk $950 £613 2010-03-03
    DesignAgency.co.uk $8,400 £5,419 2010-03-04
    FoldingCaravan.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-10
    CampingFridge.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-10
    CampingCooker.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-10
    MeatMincer.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-10
    CvExamples.co.uk $3,100 £2,000 2010-03-11
    ScootersUk.co.uk $950 £613 2010-03-15
    TrainingEvaluation.co.uk $750 £484 2010-03-15
    BikeFrame.co.uk $499 £322 2010-03-16
    OakBeds.co.uk $5,100 £3,290 2010-03-16
    HeatingOilPrices.co.uk $900 £581 2010-03-16
    OakBed.co.uk $400 £258 2010-03-16
    LadiesTrainers.co.uk $799 £515 2010-03-17
    OakSideBoards.co.uk $450 £290 2010-03-17
    OakSideboard.co.uk $450 £290 2010-03-17
    MiniOven.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-17
    LadiesBicycles.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-17
    FieldBikes.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-17
    CyclingJackets.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-17
    ChildrensTshirts.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-17
    CareerGuidance.co.uk $5,900 £3,806 2010-03-22
    WeightBench.co.uk $1,200 £774 2010-03-22
    ChainSets.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-24
    PubCompany.co.uk $2,900 £1,871 2010-03-25
    BournemouthWeather.co.uk $199 £128 2010-03-26
    GlassDiningTable.co.uk $4,200 £2,710 2010-03-29
    PersonalShoppers.co.uk $399 £257 2010-03-29
    AntiqueBoxes.co.uk $1,000 £645 2010-04-06
    MasonicRings.co.uk $1,900 £1,226 2010-04-12
    PrivatePropertySales.co.uk $1,400 £903 2010-04-12
    LondonPhotographer.co.uk $1,000 £645 2010-04-12
    UkPromDress.co.uk $199 £128 2010-04-12
    MobilePhoneCoverage.co.uk $1,000 £645 2010-04-13
    MasonicRing.co.uk $100 £65 2010-04-13
    DirectFireworks.co.uk $500 £323 2010-04-19
    WeddingTent.co.uk $800 £516 2010-04-20
    WeddingTents.co.uk $750 £484 2010-04-20
    BandsDirect.co.uk $799 £515 2010-04-28
    DebtManagementPlan.co.uk $4,200 £2,710 2010-04-30
    CaravanFridges.co.uk $600 £387 2010-04-30
    CheapBedroomFurniture.co.uk $3,300 £2,129 2010-05-05
    Cushy.co.uk $2,625 £1,694 2010-05-05
    WorkplaceProducts.co.uk $700 £452 2010-05-06
    AllAnswers.co.uk $600 £387 2010-05-13
    CheapHotelsInNewyork.co.uk $599 £386 2010-05-17
    CordlessTelephone.co.uk $399 £257 2010-05-17
    TunnelTents.co.uk $199 £128 2010-05-17
    SportsCarRental.co.uk $129 £83 2010-05-18
    AquariumDecorations.co.uk $750 £484 2010-05-21
    HardwareTools.co.uk $699 £451 2010-05-21
    MotorcycleMarket.co.uk $499 £322 2010-05-21
    UkPassportRenewal.co.uk $350 £226 2010-05-21
    PlanningLaw.co.uk $149 £96 2010-05-24
    SingleWardrobe.co.uk $699 £451 2010-05-31
    SmallBusinessHelp.co.uk $999 £645 2010-06-06
    PromoCodes.co.uk $30,500 £19,677 2010-06-09
    CampfireCooking.co.uk $301 £194 2010-06-28
    BeachTent.co.uk $550 £355 2010-06-07
    SteakKnives.co.uk $1,600 £1,032 2010-07-08
    LuxuryCruises.co.uk $8,600 £5,548 2010-07-14
    StockCharts.co.uk $48,000 £30,968 2010-07-19
    SecurityStickers.co.uk $600 £387 2010-07-22
    AirlineReviews.co.uk $2,600 £1,677 2010-07-28
    MattressCleaner.co.uk $700 £452 2010-08-02
    WheelTrims.co.uk $1,900 £1,226 2010-08-03
    ArtValuations.co.uk $199 £128 2010-08-09
    PropertyAdvisor.co.uk $4,900 £3,161 2010-08-11
    CycleComputers.co.uk $399 £257 2010-08-11
    ConservatoryPrices.co.uk $599 £386 2010-08-13
    ApartmentsInMajorca.co.uk $599 £386 2010-08-17
    Free-Delivery.co.uk $199 £128 2010-08-18
    GlobalTravelAgency.co.uk $800 £516 2010-08-26
    GameTrade.co.uk $3,000 £1,935 2010-09-01
    TelevisionReviews.co.uk $650 £419 2010-09-01
    BackpackingAustralia.co.uk $600 £387 2010-09-01
    CheckFlights.co.uk $4,050 £2,613 2010-09-03
    TriathlonBikes.co.uk $1,100 £710 2010-09-03
    FineChocolate.co.uk $600 £387 2010-09-06
    LaptopChargers.co.uk $5,500 £3,548 2010-09-08
    BarbecueCovers.co.uk $550 £355 2010-09-09
    BrowserGames.co.uk $20,500 £13,226 2010-09-14
    GraphicsTablets.co.uk $249 £161 2010-09-14
    AdultVideoChat.co.uk $1,825 £1,177 2010-09-17
    ManchesterCarSales.co.uk $550 £355 2010-09-28
    TomatoPlant.co.uk $650 £419 2010-09-30
    ChristmasFairs.co.uk $199 £128 2010-10-01
    LeatherSofaBed.co.uk $1,100 £710 2010-10-07
    FreePrints.co.uk $1,250 £806 2010-10-11
    IntegratedFridges.co.uk $199 £128 2010-10-13
    ElectricMotorbikes.co.uk $199 £128 2010-10-13
    Cv-Search.co.uk $750 £484 2010-10-19
    FreeCvTemplate.co.uk $750 £484 2010-10-19
    E-Service.co.uk $1,500 £968 2010-11-02
    SustainableLiving.co.uk $1,200 £774 2010-11-03

    I will post them every month.

    Best regards

    Admin
     
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  3. Lucky Luke United Kingdom

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    Really very good indeed. Well done.

    Where are the .org.uk sales? ;)
     
  4. Edwin

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    Impressive! That's £152,276 worth of sales from 115 domains, or an average of £1,324.14 per domain...
     
  5. denchomsky United Kingdom

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    How strange that oakbeds.co.uk went for £3290, but oakbed.co.uk only went for £258?

    Massive discrepancy, and I always though singular was more valuable than plural?
     
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    My gut feel is that the prices are being negotiated on the fly rather than based on some kind of hard-coded pricelist. Too much variation otherwise. And presumably there are various employees on the team, all responding to different approaches from different parties, some identifiable as specific end-users, some more anonymous. All kinds of factors that come into play if there's not an actual pricelist underpinning the whole thing*.

    *NB: this is just a guess - I don't know how Nokta do it, but the above data certainly shows that they do it WELL!

    Beyond that, end-user ecommerce sites will almost certainly prefer the plural (regardless of GKT results) because it much more closely matches what they offer. A shop selling "oak beds" as its main product will want "oakbeds.co.uk" above "oakbed.co.uk" any day. It's only domainers, affiliates and pure-play SEO types who would put strong enough emphasis on the GKT data to price the singular over the plural...
     
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    Great work getting this list
     
  8. denchomsky United Kingdom

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    If the date is the sale date, which I presume it is, they were both bought on the same day, and probably from the same buyer, so they may have been bought as a pair, the sale price being $5500.
     
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    Nice work getting the list Admin :)

    Strange pricing, some bargains but equally some expensive sales I probably wouldn't buy at reg fee :D
     
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    That sales list doesn't include any of the names sold for under $100 and I know that there have been a helluva lot of them also, so the average is skewed up a fair bit.
     
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    How? Their contact form does not allow you to enter an offer under $100...
     
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    You got some nice buys there Ty ;) many of the the ones I WHOIS'd out of interest had your name on.

    Always had the assumption that Nokta would come back with a high valuations so have never bothered making offers in the past, must take note for future... :D
     
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    Thanks,

    Yup, I've bought a lot of names at Nokta, some premium ones - DoubleBed.co.uk (2009) etc, but a load of cheaper ones as well..

     
  14. Pred United Kingdom

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    why would you think that
    there isn't a rule for it
    but i would say more often than not plural better

    hotels
    cars
    books
    diamonds
    flights

    far better than singular

    then some words are singular AND plural
    like: property

    and far better than properties

    some the same imho

    holiday
    holidays

    exacts show other things depending on category/product

    obviously some terms are best singular, like 'football' as complete category cruncher, and plural is just for selling 'footballs' and not a patch on singular
     
  15. namealot United Kingdom

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    Nice to see the list often wondered how many co.uk they sell... Bit surprised on how low it was as they have some nice co.uk names..? Do they have 74364 co.uk? in there catalogue that would be a conversion 0.155 %...
     
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  16. davedevelopment United Kingdom

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    Blimey! Great sale.

    There's a nice variation between prices and quality, makes me feel better about some of my portfolio.
     
  17. denchomsky United Kingdom

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    Overall you are right, though I can think of as many examples in the singular which are better.

    recycle
    help
    lipstick
    ski
    apple ;)
    sky
    money
    finance
    fish
    baby
     
  18. armistice United Kingdom

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    This is the case, both are now owned by: Headboards Ltd
     
  19. Pred United Kingdom

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    what site you going to?
    don't go nokta.com
    go noktadomains.com

    some can be bought for $99 bin
    use advanced search too

    never bought one form them tbh
    they have some really good domains but a lot of average regfee ones too
    prob about 100k of them

    i noticed they are listing domains they don't own too, maybe an agreement with buydomains and others too checking whois, or maybe selling via afflaite links

    whois shows they own just shy of 300k domains
    there arent 300k great domains on planet so ......

    also its fair to say the figure whois gives associated to one email is usually under the real figure as they will have some associated to another email.

    plus .uk domains won't list the email :eek:

    i reckon closer to 400k +
     
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    With renewals up around the £185,000 per annum mark (£2.50 x 74,364), it doesn't seem or appear to be worth it.

    Perhaps they're holding back on the sales data?
     
  21. Pred United Kingdom

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    theyve only listed .uk sales here

    overall their renewals, if just taking a mean, as com will be say $8 a year. uk about $6 a year, and other extensions more , org, co.nz etc

    i would say very roughly their renewals are about $3 million a year

    they do get some whopping com sales though
    and tbh you're going to sell a lot more coms anyway
    much bigger audience, as long as theyre pretty good

    although .com and .co.uk are the best things to own for sales imho

    some nice .de would be nice i guess too!
     
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