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R.I.P Mrs Thatcher

Discussion in 'General Board' started by websaway, Apr 8, 2013.

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  1. GreyWing

    GreyWing Well-Known Member

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    Well it is almost as if it was written by Brasseye, you couldn't make it up. If anyone is in any doubt that the stupidity that Margaret Thatcher put an end to the knowledge have to do is read this week's paper, the Barnsley Chronicle.

    At the front of the paper they have hundreds of letters of people writing in to condemn Margaret Thatcher. How good old Barnsley used to be, when communities were thriving and doors can be left unlocked..

    Then totally unrelated turned towards the back, there is a section to what happens this week in history of Barnsley....

    "30 years ago today, The Barnsley branch of the electricians union complained and stopped a local majorettes group from using the community hall to practice as they were using wooden sticks that looked like rifles."

    The electricians union? What on earth had it got to do with them?

    Rose tinted spectacles anyone...
     
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  3. GreyWing

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    Mate I feel that shareholders need to be more active and concerned. People need more control of what their pension funds do with the investments.

    I've studied the companies act 2006, all the tools are provided by the Government and the law for shareholders to act. They choose not to, then they complain when all goes belly up.

    Unfortunately part of the truth is people don't know where their money is invested... Until it's too late. I read somewhere that around 40% of Bernie Madoff's clients have no idea they had money invested with him. That has to change and shareholders need to be more aware of where their investments are, and the ability to move their cash.
     
  4. Aegean Greece

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    This is absolutely right, I totally agree, but I also think that the 80's and 90's showed that greed did indeed prevail, as did fraud, underhand dealings and outright illegal actions by large institutions such as banks. In the end it all crashed and these idiots nearly caused economic collapse.

    It simply shows that people cannot be trusted to run their own industry without regulation. The rules of the game should never be written by those who stand to profit.
     
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    290 mines closed under Wilson (pre thatcher labour) in all his time in office, and about 160 under Thatcher.
     
  6. websaway United Kingdom

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    Whatever your take on the history of this topic, don't you find it pathetic that so many people in their 50's and 60's have not moved on from the hatred they have harboured for Mrs Thatcher.
    Will all the real world businesses who have lost their livelihoods because of the internet find someone who they can blame, and in 30 years time dance on their grave.

    If any entity was responsible for the loss of industry in the 70's and 80's it was the Germans and the Japanese who were busy rebuilding their lot.

    People really do need to move on when they are the victims of misfortune, or in most cases feel they are the victims of misfortune, these people always seem conveniently be able to blame someone or something else.
     
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    Have to agree with you there, people (in general) don't care, big outcry over coffee shops and tax bills a few months ago, these same shops are still full, supermarkets and unemployed people working for free, these supermarkets are still full of shoppers. If people were really that bothered these shops would be empty. Politics is now just for headlines, if the politicians had to actually do something for the good of society and actually benefit the people who vote for them that would really change the political landscape.

    Leave the Thatcher family alone to bury their loved one and get on with sorting today's problems, you can't change the past, but you can change the future by today's deeds.
     
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    A pretty sound synopsis. Grant it to her, she had balls, when years of the socialist labour government of the mid-late 70s didn't have any. Scargill and the rest of the unions thought they could work to rule (or really strike to rule) because of their battering of heath in 73. I still remember the weekly blackouts... I'd like to see the uproar now if the unions tried that in todays digital age!

    The world was changing and the UK wasn't. That was obvious. Germany, Japan, US, the far east. The UK was fast becoming an irrelevance. Yes, mistakes, plenty of them. But, also a lot that was needed at the time.
     
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    If you type 'Thatcher' & 'weak' into Youtube, it leads you to a video regarding the use of UK air bases by the yanks. Toward the end of the video, Thatcher talks about her reasoning, and you get a really good incite into her thoughts regarding Europe. "Weak, feeble!"
     
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    Granted, probably one of her weaker points was her almost xenophobic aversion to Europe. Some of that came though from here time through the Heath era.

    Then again a single quote can be misconstrued in many ways, as I always argue with Jehovas witnesses when they start quoting Einstein and God.
     
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    No need to be a thatcherite now but if you were back then again you would probably do the same again. Different policies for different times.
    You can set the ship on course but if you are not there you have to trust others to steer it and set the sails accordingly, and that's a big problem with changes in political parties looking for votes and popularity.
    If a leader is popular then the policies are normally to suit the people and not the country.
     
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    What a brilliant global advertisement that funeral was for Britain and London in particular.


    Probably works out cheap at 10 million.
     
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    Good to see the crowds turn out for Maggie. And pleased that the opponents were just a tiny minority. Agreed that this was a good advert for London and Britain.
     
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    yeah love or hate her I am glad people respected her funeral.
     
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    Personally I'm a bit horrified thinking such an amount could be wasted on a funeral.

    The money should have gone towards the NHS or a charity bettering the lives of the living.
     
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    Conservatives don't think in that way, they have no care or empathy with the common man, specifically those who are in the pocket of the State. Yet they had £10 million of spare brass (and brassneck) to blow on this self indulgent send-off for one of their own.
     
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    Have you considered the exposure that London got on worldwide tv.
    Have you considered how many people visited london and how many people bought services and goods, Travel, hotels, restaurants, security etc. etc.etc. ?

    So it did better the lives of the Living in a very compassionate as well as commercial way.
     
  20. Murray

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    There are better & cheaper ways to get London in world news.
     
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    Examples?

    According to this - http://www.visitbritain.org/insightsandstatistics/inboundtourismfacts/ - the average inbound tourist to Britain spends more than £500. So that's just 20,000 extra tourists to break even. I imagine the kind of tourist interested in all the pomp of such events is probably American, Chineses etc and spending much more than that average.

    Stephen.
     
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