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Real world benefits of being a TAG holder...?

Discussion in 'Nominet Tag Holders' started by willbon, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. willbon United Kingdom

    willbon Active Member

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    Considering getting my own TAG with Nominet as a channel partner...

    ...with hosting cock-ups and imminent price hikes just about everywhere, I'm thinking now might be a good time to get a TAG....

    What are the real world benefits of this?

    - Is it easy to renew domains with your own TAG?.. is most of it automated?

    - Is there a user friendly control panel?

    - Can you get software to 'resell' the domains.. i.e. take online orders. Or is it best to keep to manual regging?

    .. Please say what it is that made you become a TAG holder... and why you still use the service.. or have gone back to a 3rd party?

    All info appreciated... I'm guessing there's one or two others thinking of taking the leap too.

    Thanks

    W
     
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  3. invincible

    invincible Well-Known Member

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    Read this and onward from it if you haven't already. :)
     
  4. willbon United Kingdom

    willbon Active Member

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    Thanks for that... saw the other pages through a link but managed to miss this!... I see getting your own domain reg client software at about £1K+ and annual maintenance... server costs... then there's the payment side etc...
    I'm guessing entry costs require at least 1500 to 2000 minimum registrations per year to make it pay for itself... with no profit... tens of thousands to make it start working for you...

    Public domain registration.....That's a no from me!

    :)

    From portfolio management with a 'few' clients... I'm still interested in the tag, however....
     
  5. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    One very obvious benefit is you'll save money. The payoff comes much quicker with the forthcoming price hike.

    To become a Nominet member is £400 (there's also an annual fee of £100 after the first year).

    So if you think of a 2-year period, that's a total of £500.

    Divide that by the number of domains you own, and that's the overhead per domain of becoming a member.

    For example, if you own 200 domains, then that's £2.50 per domain of Membership overhead for the first 2 years.

    Now let's see what happens if you had those 200 domains at a registrar like 123-Reg. From 1 March they're going to be £6.99+VAT per year with no price break for a 2-year registration. So those same 200 domains would cost you £2,796+VAT to own over a 2-year period.

    Going directly to Nominet, you would only be paying £1,500+VAT for the same 2-year period for those 200 domains (that's the actual reg/renewal fee) plus another £500 for membership.

    So from the above (and assuming I haven't boobed on the math) the break-even point for Nominet membership is well under 200 names.

    If you're talking about registering/renewing for yourself, you can do all that through Nominet's online interface, so the additional development cost is £0.
     
  6. willbon United Kingdom

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    Nice Maths Edwin! - I'll take your word for it... but looks OK!

    I've done the sums on mine and realised that I would.. with the 2 yr regging rather than 1 actually halve the domain name renewal bill!

    It's a wonder that some domainers even with small portfolios are not clubbing together on a shared tag... or are they?
     
  7. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    If you've got the funds for it, you'd better get cracking if you want to beat the 1 March deadline, get a Membership and a TAG and then renew out into the future!

    Because then you save an additional £1.25/name/year compared to what you will pay post 1 March.
     
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    invincible Well-Known Member

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    The fee schedule is here. The first year is £400 joining + £100 annual (unless one joins within the latter 6 months until August when it is reduced to £50) + VAT. The first two years would therefore be either £550 or £600 + VAT.
     
  9. Edwin

    Edwin Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Thanks. Their wording was far more ambiguous than that table, and could have been read both ways. That clarifies things (and shifts the tipping point a few more domains down the line)
     
  10. invincible

    invincible Well-Known Member

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    Taking into account the .uk registry price rise commencing 1st March 2016 it still appears to be possible to get very reasonable bulk rates from some registrars by prepaying. Daily's updated prices for domain name credits for 1-10 years .uk are here.

    250 credits = £4.10 + VAT per domain name (£0.35 above wholesale).
    1000 credits = £4.00 + VAT per domain name (£0.25 above wholesale).

    Factor in the joining and annual fees for Nominet into the above. Basing it on year one only, one needs to have over 1,428 domain names to justify spending £400 + £100 to join Nominet based on buying credits in 250 credit blocks at £0.35 above wholesale.

    1,428 * £3.75 = £5,355 (wholesale at £3.75)
    1,428 * £4.10 = £5,854 (Daily at £4.10)
    Difference = £500

    Unless *my maths* is out? :)
     
  11. monaghan United Kingdom

    monaghan Moderator Staff Member

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    In my opinion, the most valuable benefit of being a member and a tag holder is that you can remove yourself from the cock-ups of other registrars :) Of course, you are still free to make mistakes of your own!

    Software wise, if you don't want to write your own system, take a look at something like WHMCS. This has a Nominet module, you can pop this on a domain, tweak the module settings with your TAG settings and sell domains, pop in a payment processor and you can more or less do hands free domain reselling. If you connect this to a cPanel reseller account or dedicated server, you can run the whole thing more or less hands free.

    I joined years ago and have never looked back.

    Additionally you get the benefit of having your name or company name as your TAG which looks much better than asking a client to transfer a name to a registrar's tag so you can manage it for them.
     
  12. Kari

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    I always thought it was more than that ..

    hmm may give this some thought
     

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