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  1. estator

    estator Member

    Dec 2008
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    Hi all,

    I'm sorry if this is not the right place. Feel free to move my thread to where you see fit.

    I was just scammed yesterday by someone who claimed to be David Cramp. His email address and paypal account is His account is 185594-abc0771

    After I transfered the domains to him, he claimed the payment back with a dispute. Never receive a word from him so far. Now my money is on hold and my domains are gone!

    My purpose at this thread is to list all the domains that I was scammed. If someone approach you to sell these names to you, please aware that you might be the next victim or you will buy scammed names and might got yourself trouble. Instead, tell straight to his face: "Get off! Scammer!" and inform the forums admin to ban the scammer. and paypal are looking into it. To my experience, always stand up for its customers. I hope I can close this thread soon.

    Here is the list of scammed names:

    Thank you.
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  3. estator

    estator Member

    Dec 2008
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    I did have a second thought that the email and paypal account was hacked. But it seems that is the guy. You'll see when you read along this post.

    This is my investigation on this guy Dave Cramp.

    1. The scammer joined the domain forums on Nov 21 2008 under username Get+1. He used email and paypal account under the name David Cramp.
    He approached me on 18 Dec 2008.
    He scammed me on Saturday , 20 Dec 2008.

    2. is redirected to Virgin Media website,
    In order to have Virgin Media email account, you have to be a customer in the UK.

    3. Googling the email address, besides all my threads, there is one lead to British VW Clubs, ABVWC Club Listing

    4. This leads to North East Club, The North-East VW Club - Home

    Dave Cramp is the secretary of this club. His information found on this website includes 2 email address: and
    His location is Billingham, Cleveland, an area at North East England.
    His North East Club forums username is Rusty.

    5. Rusty's latest posts on forums was Sunday, Dec 21 2008 4:48 pm
    There was a gap of Rusty's forums activity from Dec 14 to Dec 21.
    I checked all his posts as far back to April 2008, no mention of a stolen email incident.

    Until this point, there is no evidence of stolen account and it seems the guy Dave Cramp I'm chasing is indeed the fraudster.

    To take further step to protect an innocent man who might be hacked, I'm thinking of emailing Virgin Media and VW North East Club to confirm if there is any stolen email account.

    The whois record of my domains is still:

    Katie Kam
    wooster #15 rooster
    Phone: +1.9133151224
    Email Address:
  4. estator

    estator Member

    Dec 2008
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    Hi guys,

    Follow my previous investigation on Dave Cramp, I now look carefully at activities of the scammer (Get+1 on AcornDomains forums) and Dave Cramp (Rusty on North East VW Club forums).

    Below is the table of activity for each. The blank at each line indicates no activity (gap of activity to do something else)

    Scammer Dave Cramp
    dd-mm-yyyy mmm dd, yyyy
    Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:48 pm
    Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:44 pm
    Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:37 pm
    20-12-2008, 04:49 PM (day of scam)
    18-12-2008, 09:06 PM (day of approach)
    Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:23 pm
    13-12-2008, 04:31 PM
    13-12-2008, 01:46 PM
    09-12-2008, 10:17 PM
    08-12-2008, 03:10 PM
    Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:33 am
    Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:27 am
    Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:58 pm
    Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:38 pm
    Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:32 pm
    01-12-2008, 09:02 PM
    01-12-2008, 08:59 PM
    01-12-2008, 12:06 PM
    28-11-2008, 08:48 AM
    25-11-2008, 08:19 PM
    22-11-2008, 08:40 PM
    22-11-2008, 06:45 AM
    21-11-2008, 09:18 PM
    21-11-2008, 06:26 PM
    21-11-2008, 04:17 PM (day of registration)
    Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:56 pm
    Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:53 pm
    Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:52 pm
    Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:51 pm
    Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:34 pm

    As you can see very clearly. The date Get+1 was active on AcornDomains, Dave is inactive on VW and vice versa.

    What does it mean? I don't have to say. You can draw that yourself.

    I'll take a look at lili john who was the scammer using the same trick back in april, may 2008 to see if there is any link with this Dave folk. Stay tuned.
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2008
  5. Systreg

    Systreg Well-Known Member

    Oct 2008
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    Have you checked the full headers of the emails you reveived from the NTL email account? Feel free to PM me the full headers and I will take a look at them.

    I would be extremely surprised if the scammer was the same person as the member who runs the VW club, scammers don't tend to leave trails back to themselves, that would mean they could get caught, this is probably a case of the victims email account being hacked/phished and he is not aware of it.
  6. Webtoolkeeper

    Webtoolkeeper Active Member

    Dec 2008
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    I don't think its a good idea to own any of those scammed domains...
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