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Some new GTLD could, in theory, be wound up completely...

Discussion in 'Domain Industry News' started by Edwin, Dec 4, 2015.

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  1. Edwin

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    The interesting part was the suggestion that the namespace could be effectively intentionally priced into oblivion (presumably by raising renewal rates so high that NOBODY renews).
     
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    I couldn't find that part in either link. All I found that seemed close is “I would consider raising prices to get the string profitable or sunset the string.” attributed to Frank Schilling.

    Many expect to see a consolidation of registry providers into perhaps half a dozen or so entities that provide back end registry solutions and/or operate multiple registries of which some will be more profitable than others.

    Perhaps we may eventually see ICANN reduce registry fees on a sliding scale to those operating bulk numbers of registries.

    In my opinion one needs to be versed at making registrations with the registries that appear very likely to be successful. Similar logic needs to be applied when making speculative registrations with any registry or money is wasted.
     
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    Comment from Donuts.co:

    Donuts Inc.
    December 5, 2015 at 2:45 am
    Donuts will not sunset or shutter any of our TLDs, and are skeptical of speculation about this kind of “market.” From our perspective, a portfolio approach brings stability to this equation, thanks to efficiencies and lower relative costs.

    Our company is highly profitable even though we have some TLDs with fewer names. Specific TLDs, such as “.bank”, for example can command higher prices than can generic TLDs, and perhaps are therefore more profitable per name than TLDs with larger volume. We speculate that some TLDs with high volume are losing money, while some with low volume are very profitable. At best there is no correlation between volume and profitability as the report supposes.

    It’s important to point out that even if a TLD fails financially, ICANN has procedures in place to ensure it doesn’t go suddenly dark (e.g., the emergency back-end system, and cash / letters of credit on deposit with ICANN). There’s little to be concerned about on this front. In fact, ICANN has backup systems in place that are more extensive than what exists for registrars that go dark (which happens fairly frequently), and even those instances leave no damage to end users.

    Regardless, we’re seeing accelerating growth in new gTLD registrations — now surging past 10 million.
     
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    Sorry - wrong thread!
     
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    Come on, anyone deciding to use a new GTLD must off their rocker.. Basically some poor end user is sold the dream to build out on a new .junk extension and is practically got 'by the balls' via increased renewal fees in the future.

    At some point when they turn a profit and renewals dry up, in the long run surely be for the chop. Donuts Inc profess "emergency back-up" and ICANN will not allow them to 'fail' but how long is that going to be financially viable to run a registry for a few lost souls?

    It's practically a giant ponzi scheme.. so don;t do it folks - stick with the tried and tested .com, .uk, .org, .net - can anyone suggest one reason why you would develop on a new gTLD rather than a trusted .com or .UK etc...? and don't say its because the domain you want is 'not available' this basically means your not researching or looking properly in the right places.
     
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    Total premium name sales for November, from all sources came to a record blasting $1,622,164.13.

    As of November 30, 2015, total cumulative sales of registry reserved premium .CLUB names came to $2,890,363.40. The highest single sale remains Wine.club at $140,000.00, however November’s blockbuster sales include a 7-figure package deal to a single Chinese Investor.
     
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    yeah but its still tat... we've already been though all this back in early 2000 and can't seem any .biz, .travel or .info's about - even .net?

    By implication those are a hell of a lot better than whats coming out now.

    fools gold.. I've bought a few .info's and biz I've done it, I donlt want to confuse flipping and long term viability either.



     
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    Sound advice indeed.

    http://tinyurl.com/o6hxldk
     
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    This is definitely going to happen, the only question is when.
    If the plan is to sell to the public, many extensions will struggle to achieve profitability, because the demand cannot match the supply. The seeds of chaos were planted from day one.

    When the first extensions start crashing, this is going to further discredit new extensions as a whole, while they have yet to take off.

    I think icann's conduct is downright criminal here, but at the end of the day everybody is free to waste money.
     
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