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Suspended Domain - Do They Become Available at Specific Time of Day?

Discussion in 'Detagged or Suspended UK Domain Names' started by betaff, Jul 29, 2011.

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  1. betaff

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    Hi

    I hope someone can maybe help me. A domain that I would like to buy is currently suspended and it's drop date is 13th August.

    I have booked it with a few sites but someone else has also booked it at 2 others, including caught.co.uk

    I see that caught.co.uk is a popular drop-catcher - do they secure most names or is not necessarily the case?

    Is there any likelihood of me being able to manually capture the domain or is that not likely if it has been booked elsewhere already?

    If it is maybe possible to beat it manually, is there a certain time that domains drop such as midnight for example?

    Many thanks in advance for any advice!!
     
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  3. Rob_F United Kingdom

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    Caught. No. They are both good and popular but with 'popular' comes large amounts of names booked = less chance of securing highly competed names.

    Not a hope in hells chance of manually registering it.

    Book it with as many catchers as you can, both public and private, if possible.

    Domains can drop any time over the 24 hour period.

    - Rob
     
  4. betaff

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    Thanks for your help Rob, much appreciated.

    I have never booked a domain before in this way so am not all that familiar with the process.

    I have gone through a number of sites booking the domain:

    DomainRecover.co.uk
    DomainMonster.com
    dacr.co.uk
    DomainWatchList.co.uk
    DropCatcher - will buy a credit for £29 and book here as well

    Are these considered as public? What are private ones?

    If you could maybe spare a minute to advise where else I should do this I would really appreciate it!!

    It has already been booked by someone else at Caught.co.uk and DropSystem.co.uk

    Is it possible to contact the current registrar and ask them about backordering it? They do not advertise a drop catching service on their site though.

    Many thanks again in advance for any help :)
     
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  5. Rob_F United Kingdom

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    Private catchers are people like me who occasionally offer their services. I don't take advance bookings and only offer to catch for others once I've cleared my list for the day, but others will – especially if you tempt them with a higher than normal catch fee.

    You can find them here...

    http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/drop-catching-domain-names.html

    Might be worth you starting a thread there a week or so before the drop date, requesting their services.

    - Rob
     
  6. betaff

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    Hi Rob

    Many thanks for your help. I will do that :)

    Re: private catchers is there much of a risk that they 'may' want to keep the domain themselves if they catch it? I guess it's safe to only use those on here who have a good trader rating like yourself is it?

    If you don't mind me asking, how does a private catcher manage to beat a public one who I presume has bigger resources to do this stuff - or is that not necessarily the case?

    Re: contacting the current registrar - is that no use unless it was me who registered the domain previously?

    Thanks again for your time Rob, I really appreciate it!

    Phil
     
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  7. Rob_F United Kingdom

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    Sometimes because they have better scripts but mostly because they load fewer names - some might only load one at a time.

    Practically no risk if you use people who post in that section of the forum. Check peoples trader rep and only deal with people who have a decent history. I wouldn't recommend booking with a new member who has 3 posts and zero rep.

    No use contacting the current registrar, they have no 'legal' way to transfer the name to you.

    - Rob
     
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    Thanks Rob

    I really appreciate the help you have given me!!

    Phil
     
  9. Rob_F United Kingdom

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    One more thing, when contacting private catchers, be careful about divulging the name too early until you know if they will load it FOR YOU, not for themselves.

    Word early communications something along the line of...

    I would like to book a name beginning with the letter D, do you have anything booked beginning with that letter for x date?

    As most private catchers will just have a handful of bookings max, that might be enough info, or they might come back with something like... as long as it isn't doghouses.co.uk, that one is already booked.

    - Rob
     
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    Sent you a PM.
     
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    One other place worth considering especially if the name is booked at all/most public catchers is list it at domainlore with a pre bid. The advantage of this is many private catchers that don't usually offer to catch for others will add it to their lists (myself included) knowing they have a quick sale. The downside is alerting more people to the domain becoming available and the price will be the end price of an auction IF the person who catches it decides to sell. Not suitable for everyone but can be an option worth considering.
     
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    This has been an interesting read regarding the methods to try and get a "catch loaded" mostly due to the fact that I have never played the "domain dropping game" since about 2000/4 when it really did seem to be a make a wish list, finger on the button and hope scenario.

    Given virtually everyone is traceable with not too much work these days - I wonder why more don't follow Edwins route of trying to contact direct. Particularly if the domain has some popular appeal. As seems to be the case in this instance
     
  14. betaff

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    I've definitely learnt a lot from it :)

    If a whois search currently says 'This registration has been SUSPENDED' isn't it too late to make direct contact?

    I assumed that at this stage the owner is unable to re-register the domain - are they still able to?

    I guess also that once someone knows of the interest they may want more for the domain than getting it when it has dropped.

    The domain I'm looking at isn't worth a huge amount to me anyway - but it has been good to learn more about the process for future reference also :)

    Thanks to all who have contributed!!
     
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    A .uk can be renewed at anytime before the moment it drops. But you could be restricted by your registrar.
     
  16. octopus

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    Learnt the hard way with a dropped name - manual registering in this situation is almost hopeless.
     
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