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  1. keys United Kingdom

    keys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just as there is a level playing field for Tagholders trying to catch .uk domains as they are deleted.

    Any advantage or greater success is purely due to some dropcatchers having better systems – according to Nominet.

    Several reasons might be behind this view,

    1. It is a fact and therefore true.
    2. Resources are not used to actively police the process, therefore there is no evidence to challenge the view.
    3. Catching offenders would show a failure in the process, requiring resources to fix it, and to provide an affective deterrent.
    4. It does not matter who gets the domains, as long as normal efforts are made to contact the previous Registrant and invite renewal.

    Reason 1 ought to be valid but from observing drops it seems virtually impossible.

    Since I am not a dropcatcher Reason 4 would be acceptable with a reasonable distribution of catches, but the latest drop was exceptionally unbalanced.

    Perhaps it could be explained if certain Tagholders agreed not to compete for the same names, and linked their Tags, not assuming that they only have one Tag each.

    I believe that something is wrong here, and I am concerned about Nominet’s inability to acknowledge this or fix it. Monopolies are not good.
     
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  3. SecNam

    SecNam Moderator Staff Member

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    good point.... but lets talk technicies here.

    we all know that if you follow the rules on how to use the dac and whois will not get you the best domains. So it would be interesting to see what other technices people use..
     
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    This is just the same as any other highly competive market. To win use drugs, cheat, backhanders etc.

    It's just in other markets they have measures to prevent cheating, not that i'm saying anyone is, just an observation.
     
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    at the end of the day if people where cheating i think nominet would know, so lets set that asside for a minute and lets discuss how to do it. we must all agree we are here for the same reason, catch domains and at the moment a selective few are getting them. so if people share possible technicies instead of 3 or 4 tag holders getting names maybe 10 - 15 will get them.

    aggree//disagree ???
     
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    I haven't spotted anybody who seems to have an advantage out of proportion to the effort that they put in.
    I seem to get my fair share, based on the very limited resources that I use. (Maybe 10% of the names I go after)

    However there does seeem to be something strange going on with pre-noms, but it's something I've put next to no research into, so might just not understand.
     
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    he's been on the forum all day - all be it invisible. i dont see why he doesnt post here and set the records streight himself - rather than PMing people?

    we may not catch as many names but we certainly don't bite!

    :confused:
     
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    keys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Happy New Year to all, mere mortals and others.

    As for prosperity - Expect nothing and you will not be disappointed.
     
  9. rob

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    the other thread has ***NAMES etc, 'hes been online all day', 'one tag catching the lot'

    WHO IS?

    If you are certain and know someone is cheating have the balls to say it, and show us all the proof or please STFU as it is getting DULL.

    Back in t'day Dropcatcher.co.uk was accused of cheating, Clark , Reeves, Tag names , Zaffer, Gray, France , Oteshko etc etc etc all caught nice names and beat me and a zillion others to them are they all cheating? Was it 'exceptionally unbalanced' when earlier this year France / Oteshko tag cleaned up on top names? Did they cheat then suddenly stop!? :D

    I think it is quite telling that Nominet are aware of accusations yet have not taken action, likewise that those who were good when multi tags would not be beneficial are still good now.

    Someone quoted £100k's of names caught by a (shock horror unnamed !) person, so thats four decent programmers paid wages for a year to work soley on a dac. Think of it like that, and that might give the answer why some of us cannot compete, professionals vs hobbiests really.

    I agree totally with Colin / FCdomains post, based on effort people get their rewards. If you aint catching, put some more work in rather than moaning :)
     
  10. admin Spain

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    Well said Rob, we are tired of this too and will take action if people persist with making accusations, implied or otherwise.

    As we have said so many times before (and it is in the forum rules), if you have a case or a complaint, please take it to Nominet as posting it here serves no purpose.

    Any further "cheating" posts will be deleted and the members asked to desist.

    Please use you time (and ours) more productively.

    Many thanks

    Admin
     
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