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using the DAC to catch

Discussion in 'Drop catching Domain Names' started by seanc, Apr 19, 2006.

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  1. seanc United Kingdom

    seanc Well-Known Member

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    Hi All, i've been using a homemade perl script to catch domains up until now,
    (and i've had a couple catches that i've been happy with)

    i've been reading more and more about people using the DAC to catch,
    i do have access to the DAC, can anyone point me in the right direction
    so it can help me catch suspended domains.

    all i know is that you can lookup a domain, theres not much documentation
    about it.

    ie: domain.co.uk


    thanks!
     
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  3. bb99 United Kingdom

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    Well a dropcatching script works broadly as follows:

    - decide which domain/s you want to check for
    - keep checking to see if they are available over and over again
    - if one of them is, fire off a PGP email to Nominet to try and register it

    If you've already got a non DAC script then I'm assuming it's just the DAC you need help with.

    All you need to do with the DAC is open up a connection and then query the domain name. You can do this manually with telnet like this:

    and you then keep sending the domain name (in this case fedex.co.uk :)) until the name becomes free. At this point the DAC will return:

    and it's here that you need to register the domain as quickly as you can. So you just need to automate this into a script.

    I don't know how to do this in Perl though, I use PHP.
     
  4. jonno United Kingdom

    jonno Active Member

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    prime domain to use as an example there :)

    1 week today should be intresting ;)
     
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    Superb :)

    Better even than FC Domains's Mickey Mouse the other day!

    But really, somebody should telephone them and tell them about it. That and federalexpress.co.uk. Someone needs to be sacked.
     
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    That's a class piccy. :)
     
  8. seanc United Kingdom

    seanc Well-Known Member

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    so am i correct in thinking that the DAC gives you the advantage to
    automate/script things much easier?


    Thanks for the replys.
     
  9. aqls

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    DAC is just the domain availability checker, i.e. just a fast whois that allows more than 1000 miserable requests.

    You then have to send your email to nominet email address separately to reg the domain.

    I think you need to be a TAG and set up pgp (I'm not sure if you can do without that palaver, but def need to be a TAG to get DAC access)

    scripting it all just makes it a bit quicker.

    Still doesn't get you into the game ;) existing droppies are much too quick for us mere scriptkiddies!

    -aqls-
     
  10. bb99 United Kingdom

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    Pretty much yes. You need to remember that, for the decent domain names, the time that elapses between them becoming available and them being registered by A Catcher is generally less than half a second.

    By allowing you to check availability 432,000 times every 24 hours, the DAC gives you an advantage over someone using (eg) WHOIS (which is of course limited to 1,000 queries per day).
     
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    i disagree! these big companies are so disorganised and i class that domain expiring as revenge for them messing my deliveries around th the past :p

    just a shame it isnt citylink.co.uk instead. god how i hate that company :(
     
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    You mean city-link.com , I quite like them :)
     
  13. jonno United Kingdom

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    yes thats them... at least they are stuck with that shitty typo :)
     
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    shittylink.co.uk is available :)
     
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    No it's not....lies...... :D
     
  16. max99 United Kingdom

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    Anyone know what kind of system is used by major dropcatchers to get email domain request to Nominet submitted faster than a TAG holding "scriptkiddy"? Surely their (the big player's) handicap is having to monitor thousands of names rather than, say, one or two hundred? How do they get around Nominet look-up restrictions. 432,000 look-ups a day is not much even if trying for just 100 names! Often wondered answers to these questions but oddly hardly ever discussed on the boards.
     
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    The only real big player monitoring 1000s of domains is dropcatcher.co.uk and you will notice that they catch almost zero of the top domains because of this.

    Most of the independent catchers will be monitoring a much smaller list (maybe even one domain at a time)

    Grant
     
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    If I knew that max99 (whoever you are) I'd be pm'ing you immediately to let you know what I'd found! :D

    -aqls-
     
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    These questions are seldom discussed because, for many, it's a business and this sort of information is commercially sensitive. There's a hell of a lot more information about now than there was a year ago... which in turn is significantly more than was around a year before that. In my view, the best source of information is this forum. Go back through all the posts in this section of the forum and you will be enlightened :)

    As a wise man once said to someone else on this forum (Rob was it?) - "A good catcher keeps his mouth shut".

    If you want the best chance of getting a name, you need to work out on what day it's going to drop (there's plenty of info about this on this forum - most notably the little calendar thingy at the top!). That way you shouldn't be searching for hundreds of names on the DAC at any one time. You then need to prioritise - the less names you're checking at any one time, the more you're checking per second and the higher the chance you've got at catching.

    Good luck :)
     
  20. seanc United Kingdom

    seanc Well-Known Member

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    thanks all for the replies.


    so theres no secret DAC command that lists the SUSPENDED domains :p
     
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    No secret command. Look at the output of the DAC carefully and search for a Y.
     
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