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Google Farmer/ Panda update ends minisites?

Discussion in 'Mini Sites' started by RSK3000, Mar 15, 2011.

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  1. RSK3000 United Kingdom

    RSK3000 Active Member

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    Does the Google Farmer/ Panda update mean the end of minisites?

    The update appears to penalise 'low value' sites.
     
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    Is it in already and started wiping out minisites?
     
  4. RSK3000 United Kingdom

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    Yes lots have sites have been hit. Don't know about minisites specifically - thats why I'm asking the qustion, really.

    Currently its only US traffic, but its only a matter of time before Google roll it out worldwide.
     
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    It's not really targeting mini sites. It's targeting those sites that have hundreds/thousands of auto generated or very weak content pages.
     
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    Basicly, if your sites crap, it will get dropped.

    Quite fair really!
     
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    It's not as simple as that, check out all these sites that have been hit: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=76830633df82fd8e&hl=en

    Obviously there will be plenty of people there who wrongly assume they've been affected, but it's pretty clear that an automated algorithm change on such a big scale isn't perfect.
     
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    Can i join in

    If you go down the posts and check out seo 101 he seems to cut through the
    noise about the posts there

    I think its very dangerous to start calling sites mini sites bad etc etc as a site is a site and if it has been created correctly with on page seo as it should be
    it doers not matter how many pages it has , the quality of the content =
    quality of the links , yes you can pick holes in this

    but it is possible to have a site ranking page 1 pos 1 with not a lot of great content dependent on the competition i have a few

    there are lots of so called mini sites making money you can take it to a extreme there is a guy who has i think 10,000 websites yes 10,000
    and he makes his money on some of them or i even think he said most of them with adsense did you just hear that $10,000 a day ok has a staff of 85 mostly outsourced and the guy is British Great mark vurnum Google it

    i wish instead of getting bogged down with mini site quality Google slaps etc etc open your eyes there is so much out there .

    i know it sounds crazy but if i could have $27 per day then 27 x 3500 = 94,500 per day = 661,500 per week x 52 = 34,398,000

    not bad hey ok so lets say you all think i am pi**ed hoW much is my judgement out , lets say i am 90% wrong 3,439,000 is still nice

    Night Night

    I Love Domains and the opportunities the present us,limited only be our imagination

    by the ways its not the money that excites me , it making it happen
    and seeing it work that's the pleasure
     
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    Mini sites can at times offer much greater value to visitors than medium to large sites.

    For example, if I am looking for a TV Bed, I would much rather visit a site just about TV beds than a site all about beds or bedroom furniture. I would expect such a site to serve my needs best as it is concentrated exactly on what I am looking for.

    What exactly defines a mini-site anyway? How many pages?
     
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    exactly and what defines 'quality'
     
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    Apparently Googles algorithm
     
  12. philiporchard United Kingdom

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    I've developed mini sites of just 1 or 2 pages and they've gone up in the search results in the last week. If the site has value then i think 'minisite' or not, it should be ok.
     
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    Same here, haven't noticed any detrimental changes since this apparent UK update.

    By the way Phil, the 4a/4b links in your signature need '.co.uk' adding to them just in case you hadn't noticed! :)
     
  14. RSK3000 United Kingdom

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    My understanding is that you do see new minisites ranking well for a few days/ weeks, then dropping back down the rankings.
     
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    Can be annoying because if I wanted to search for eg a red microwave and someone made a Storeburst site using redmicrowaves.co.uk with 25 different microwaves and some the same with different prices then that is exactly what I want,all the choices in one place rather than having to go searching through Argos,Comet and Dixons etc.
     
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    Thanks for letting me know!
     
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    Agreed, but google penalises for this, as they see is as an unnecessary step to get to the final destination page.
     
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    I've done some research across our sites and on the whole they have all risen up the serps. With a bit more plugging away at good content and some link building I expect that we'll be sitting at #1 for a fair few new keywords!

    Interesting to see the big voucher code sites that seem to have been whacked with this update.
     
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    From what I have seen so far, most of my sites seem to be business as usual / more traffic than normal. I can see that things have been shaken up though. Did some affiliate sales from sites I thought were dead and buried :)

    My sites tend to be keyword domain + unique content + not many backlinks but the ones I have are nicely relevant.

    Also from what I observe in brand + voucher code search it is also the same old faces so I think the data about the voucher code sites is a bit off.
     
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    I've seen a number of competitors sites with only a handful of inbound links, or weak content drop. People with unique content and revelant inbound links seems to be ranking well though, as you'd hope and expect.
     
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    Very little change here, although some niche sites seem to be a bit stronger.

    Stephen.
     
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