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Nominet announces programme for evolving the .uk domain name space

Discussion in '.UK Domain Name Consultations' started by domainseller200, Jun 18, 2013.

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  1. domainseller200 United Kingdom

    domainseller200 Well-Known Member

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    This is of interest now :)
     
  4. Pred United Kingdom

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    no doubt they'll be charging high fees to make 'a claim'

    'if' this ever goes through
     
  5. Brassneck United Kingdom

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    Yes will be checking the whois of all the equivalent .co.uk before i drop any more 'worthless' .org.uk domains.

    Stephen.
     
  6. Murray

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    Wow.. they've really changed it.

    very very interesting.
     
  7. Systreg

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    Just posting the copy of the page link for future reference:

     
  8. AssetDomains

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    Very interesting indeed
     
  9. AssetDomains

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    Thinking about it this is very very bad for drop catches in short term isn't It
     
  10. Edwin

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    Their new roll-out mechanism sounds very similar to the one I was advocating in response to the original Direct.uk proposal last year. Much more acceptable.
     
  11. Edwin

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    Only if the .org.uk and .me.uk of the domain being drop-caught are taken. If they're still available, then it's good news for drop catchers because their brand new .co.uk will still end up older than any subsequent registration.
     
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    Just doing a quick scan of anything worth catching it seems at least one or both are usually taken
     
  13. domainseller200 United Kingdom

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    My thoughts exactly Edwin.

    The older regged .org.uk market just increased in value fifty fold :)
     
  14. Edwin

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    Then it's absolutely fair enough that their owners should have priority. A drop is a complete "reset" in the domain ownership record (the whois reflects that) so whether a domain name was registered for a year or a decade before it drops shouldn't make any difference on the other side of the drop.
     
  15. Edwin

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    Yes, that's very true. The release mechanism also protects those who have gone to significant financial lengths to secure top-tier generics off their original registrants. A quick check of our geo portfolio shows that we have by far the oldest registrations for all of our 5-figure domain acquisitions.
     
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    What does that mean exactly?

    Does it mean that if you're a normal registrant or Nominet registrar living overseas, that you are prevented from registering .UK domains?

    Alternatively, as a Nominet registrar, does it mean you can still register .UK domains with an overseas address, as long as long as your TAG is for personal use only, and not for offering a domain registration service for people to register domains through?
     
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    The proposal is still flawed in my opinion. Regardless of release rights, they can't get way with running two identical services operating on confusingly identical domains in .co.uk and .uk.
     
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    Much less unnaceptable.
     
  19. martin-s United Kingdom

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    +1. Was about to post exactly the same thing.
     
  20. Brassneck United Kingdom

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    Well I think if you paid a lot now for a recent .co.uk catch you would be very annoyed that somebody with with one of the other extensions would be able to get the .uk at reg fee. Could help the secondary market if people suddenly realise that they need to speak to portfolio holders to get the domain they need in order to secure the .uk version.

    Stephen.
     
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    What exactly do they mean by "oldest current registration"? For instance if someone purchased a org.uk that was registered before the the co.uk would that count as the 'oldest' registration, or would it be based on how long the 'current owner' has owned the name?
     
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