Enjoy unlimited access to all forum features for FREE! Optional upgrade available for extra perks.

September .uk drop discussion

Discussion in 'Drop catching Domain Names' started by Murray, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Domain Forum

    Acorn Domains Elite Member

    Joined:
    1999
    Messages:
    Many
    Likes Received:
    Lots
    IWA Meetup
     
  3. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2012
    Posts:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    432
    Sorry If I'm short here I'm just tired of saying the same things over and over

    A registrant either has anywhere up until cancellation to renew (as is in the t&c) or they have nothing

    A registration can't depend on some random person outside opinion on whether the registrant wants the domain or not

    What's happened breaks the whole system, it breaks any trust you can have in the .uk namespace, it makes domains unusable

    You have up until cancellation or you have nothing
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
    • Like Like x 3
  4. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    You can try all you want to build this into a soap opera but the facts are that it involves a tiny number of names registered to people who hadn't bothered to renew them and most importantly has nothing whatsoever to do with you or anyone else on this forum.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 6
  5. dropped.uk

    dropped.uk Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2016
    Posts:
    81
    Likes Received:
    35
    @bensd
    I don't have the exact time, but the tag change from YAYYAY to NAMECHEAP-INC was roughly between 21:45 and 22:30.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2020
  6. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2012
    Posts:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    432
    You have until cancellation to renew, the only time you can say a registrant didn't bother to renew is when the domain is cancelled by the registry and no time before

    It's much bigger than individual names (albeit taking just one is bad enough) you're arguing contracts aren't important? that's not a trivial thing
     
  7. super-whois

    super-whois Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2008
    Posts:
    347
    Likes Received:
    86
    Surely by your argument, the fact that they weren't renewed was none of your business? Or are you being a hypocrite?
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    I haven't got a clue what your point is? I couldn't give a shit who renewed, registered or stole what so long as it didn't affect me. My main gripes are people being accused of theft and group bullying of someone when you don't even have the facts of what happened.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. LCHappy United Kingdom

    LCHappy Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2018
    Posts:
    338
    Likes Received:
    72
    You've already said you didn't even know what Nominet's Terms are, your own states you will take ownership of a domain of one of your customers within 30 days of expiry. You aren't dishonest, but why should anyone take you seriously when you have already agreed you have no idea what you are talking about?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. bensd United Kingdom

    bensd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2007
    Posts:
    5,103
    Likes Received:
    79
    @dropped.uk thanks Guy

     
  11. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    I actually said that I misread Nominet's T&C's and that they for their part had also failed to pick up on my mistake.

    Why not address my point about the bullying of Susannah when people don't have the facts?
     
  12. super-whois

    super-whois Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2008
    Posts:
    347
    Likes Received:
    86
    If you read what has been posted here, you will find that Susannah has had ample opportunity to reply to legitimate questions. Susannah replied to one of them clearly saying that there was more than one way to skin a cat, and that Fasthosts have the trail. The fact that the domains have been reverted and that there has been no reply to provide any alternative to the assumption that Susannah asked Fasthosts for the name, and Fasthosts gave it, is not bullying. If anything, Susannah is the one that have taken you for a mug.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. signature

    signature Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2013
    Posts:
    2,455
    Likes Received:
    103
    Please, people, let's be civil, no need for insult or name calling. This issue affect all of us, its the terms .UK name space operates on and we cant ignore because it did not affect us at the moment.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    Susannah has stated that she did nothing wrong so maybe one of you oracles can show the evidence that she's lying?
     
  15. TheWizard United Kingdom

    TheWizard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2008
    Posts:
    22
    Likes Received:
    4
    A great number of people on here are members of Nominet, so it has everything to do with them, given it affects the reputation of the .uk namespace, its operators and public opinion on those who are members.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    It reflects on Fasthosts and nobody else. You're just trying to justify sticking your nose into something that's got nothing to do with you.
     
  17. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2012
    Posts:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    432
    Yes

    Earlier in the thread when discussing acquiring the domain "with everything bound over by the agreement of the .co.uk holder"

    A quote from theregister.com article

    "That particular domain name, charlie.uk, which was assigned to Leon Hughes, who owns charlie.co.uk, was ultimately transferred to Susannah Clark. Hughes said he did not authorize the sale"

    Ok you could argue to the best of her knowledge it was bound over by the agreement of the co.uk holder but it doesn't appear she dealt with anyone but FastHosts? if she did why not clarify?

    If you're proven to have given factually inaccurate information and then no clarification after is everyone else the bad guy for pointing that out and being sceptical?
     
  18. DJ

    DJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    1,774
    Likes Received:
    203
    I will repeat my comment made on the other thread about the news article:

    Sadly for somebody normally so vocal, on this occasion silence speaks louder than words :(.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    So based on nothing but hearsay and conjecture you chose to assume deceit rather than take her at her word? It doesn't matter that Leon was the registrant and didn't sell the name, what matters is how Susannah came to be the registrant and if that was by asking Fasthosts if she could buy it and them agreeing, then they're at fault.

    She said she'd done nothing wrong, why should she elaborate on how when it's nobody's business.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  20. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    Bollocks, the dogs had been let loose and she went to ground. This place has some really good people who say nothing because of the pack mentality of a few smart arses.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 3
  21. Gill United Kingdom

    Gill Retired Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    11
    Press disagree all you like, you're like children!

    Cowards and bullies!
     
    • Funny Funny x 1