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Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by keys, Jul 18, 2006.

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  1. keys United Kingdom

    keys Well-Known Member

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    You can now download and print a transfer form/s, no more requests and waiting for the postman - unless you are doing mass transfer.

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/go/trform

    I think this is good news.
     
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  3. aquanuke

    aquanuke Well-Known Member

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    Thats good, so do you get a discount if you print your own :p
     
  4. rob

    rob Founding Member

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    As the fee is charged on a cost recovery basis they are saving cash by not having to post forms out.

    However they do now email the owner asking to agree to transfer.

    Good move by nom though.
     
  5. Jac

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    The average website designer charges £35 per hour. The average programmer charges anything up to £120 per hour (some less, some more). The average domainer charges hundreds if not thousands when reselling a domain name (Beasty has been expounding on the "intrinsic value" in domain names). I have seen some dropcatching services charge from £24 upwards for a no-guarantee catching service (some are actually quite fair, they include the renewal fee of the name; others don't).

    The point is, all these guys want to cover their costs. So what's the big beef with Nominet charging £30 (cost recovery basis) which is less than an hour's work for the average website designer?

    Regards
    James Conaghan

    PS: Yes, I know Joe Bloggs working out of his garden shed by candlelight charges a fiver an hour, but I draw the line at some semblence of professionalism. ;)
     
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    retired_member6 Banned

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    Data entry is more than £6 an hour these days it? not all people work in the land of the rich, this is a labour government you know, minimum wage should be aimed for at all costs.
     
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    The uk economy is barely getting through life from day to day and with news of house prices increasing 50% in six years, welcome to hell.
     
  8. rob

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    There isnt from me :)

    I am interested in the comparisions though !

    Webdesigners work for £35ph it seems, supermodels get out (or into) bed for £10k , and data entry / processing can be done minimum wage.

    Do we have Naomi Campbell spending a few seconds of her time on it, or someone on a fiver an hour spending a day per form? ;)
     
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    That's why he's talking bollocks. And he knows it because he dresses the reply up. :mrgreen:
     
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    Because it takes 5 minutes work.
     
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    FC Domains Well-Known Member

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    Any chance of the form in whatever format it was written? (InDesign with luck.) Then I can make a version with all of my information already filled out.
     
  12. invincible

    invincible Well-Known Member

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    <AOL>Me too.</AOL> I have memories of a facility within Acrobat to allow the completion of forms, made available in the format, electronically. Failing that will Illustrator load PDFs and allow the same to be achieved?
     
  13. bb99 United Kingdom

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    I have a huge beef with the transfer fee - here it is:

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    James - are you able to tell us the outcome of the discussions on the transfer fee at the last PAB meeting? No doubt the minutes will be along soon, but it'd be useful to know...
     
  14. rob

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    We are all steakholders though
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    GBP30 does not cover the expenses of Pub meeting :)
     
  16. Jac

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    Lee,

    You have always come across as having a pretty good business acumen, so are you really suggesting that commercial entities should all adopt minimum wage in a professional environment where costs and selling prices are very much dictated by market forces and market values?

    Regards
    James Conaghan
     
  17. Jac

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    No, it doesn't.

    If you want to see how the domain name transfer department and process works please feel free to request a visit to Nominet and see for yourself. Call 'em on 01865 332211.

    Regards
    James Conaghan
     
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    retired_member6 Banned

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    No not at all, supermarket labour is an american thing that is being brought over here enabling labour to really bugger the country seeing house prices rise and rise, converting our way of life from the homeowner to the renter to accomodate a more european lifestyle and more sunny climb, whilst keeping wages low and an economy on near collapse whilst convincing people that train prices and overall cost of living is correct it's just you're the only person (in reality 60%) living on the poverty line yet the PM raises his wage 250% to enable him to live when he gets in office, nevermind the other 30 million people.

    So no, companies should pay accordingly and allow their staff to at least live a little whilst they work their miserable little bums off for next to nothing. But at the same time the services have to be worth the cost or people like myself who find out about mishaps in the system as detailed by someone recently making a mockery of that system and needing to be convinced the payment is worth it - the additional security and not just a push whenever to whoever. It's still £30 yet nominet won't knock off cost of sealing an envelope, postage, paper and printing - well not yet anyway, perhaps a trial and we'll give it time. :mrgreen: but likewise what's £30? usually payable by the buyer when it's a £1k sale but then when it's £30 sale it's off putting to the buyer - equally not all transfers are from domaining - I know.

    The organisation needs to cover the staffing levels regardless of what is happening, whether that entails multi tasking or complete focus within one department, the balancing of costs for services isn't easy and perhaps the transfer fee which is quite an healthy income for nominet affords the company full time wages for those involved in the DRS proceadure, of which there is no fee payable by either party until the point of conclusion whereby monies still don't go to nominet so in that respect it's plausable.

    But that's all you had to say, for checking paperwork and a database doesn't take three hours at £10 an hour, not even I could walk into a £10 an hour job these days, the most I think I could earn is £6 I suppose? so if your lot are on £10 then fair play to 'em. And my anaology was just explaining labour's hope for Britain, slave labour and highly paid execs, that hasn't changed since they came to power, the only thing that has changed is cost of living has sky rocketed and wages stayed the same. Labour, you got to love 'em at least the foxes are alright now and the iraqis are liberated... and they play croquet don't you know. What what, toodlepip.
     
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    retired_member6 Banned

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    Now for the other reason I'm on this thread, I've just printed out the form, I have pages 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

    So the a3 sheet and a4. Would I be able to simply fill out the first two and send that with confirmation to nominet, post or fax? and get the buyer to print out 3, 4 and 5 and post or fax that to nominet? or does that start getting messy and I should just forward all paper to buyer?

    Not too bothered, just wondering.
     
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    Then they need to retrain their staff.

    I cant believe that some paper-pushing and hitting a few keys takes more than 5 minutes.
     
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  21. FC Domains

    FC Domains Well-Known Member

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    So where do you suggest Nominet get their income from?
    Which charge would you like to see increased, if the transfer charge was lowered?
     
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