Obviously if you're using the DAC you have zero chance at good domains nowadays as it's slow to update and a domain has gone before you see a N (if you even see it) - been like that for a while. You need to be using the EPP direct or some other service. Anyone got any ideas what to poll? Also could someone with more than one legitimate tag confirm if you get another quota of EPP creates, checks, whois2 for each one? I assume you do as we see different tags from the same people all over. Bear in mind you can still do these things without breaching nominet's AUP or taking advantage of any flaws. Obviously I'm not asking people doing well what their secret is, they've found a way and that's the nature of the game, it's aimed at other people and any tests they've done or ideas they have. The game's changed for good now - DAC is dead. I don't think nominet mind what you do if you don't break any rules and nor should they. I should point out that I don't think anyone is cheating or nominet would have stamped it out. I don't want this to turn into a thread throwing accusations or abuse at each other, there's no need - just a place to pool ideas for everyone except the 2 or 3 that catch everything Also on a similar note does anyone have any info about when they plan to make the changes?