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  1. buzz75 Romania

    buzz75 Retired Member

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    Case study

    What is important for a domain name if you want to sell?
    Of course a buyer !
    But recent i register a domain name bet-120.com (bet120.com allready register before me with 2-3 days)
    So take a look and tell me what you think.
    Also what is important Google AVG monthly search or Estibot,Domainindex,Nokta etc..appraisal price?



    Keyword: bet 120
    bet120 (0 AVG search on Google) VS bet-120 ((10 AVG search on Google)


    Keyword: bet -120
    bet -120 | 450,000 | CPC $5.27 | Competition Low

    bet -120.com - imposible for registration
    bet120.com - seller ask 1 mil. $ (min.25.000 $)
    bet-120.com - why should i ask? (because its more close to reality) 100k $?!?

    Remeber this is case study!
     
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  3. martin-s United Kingdom

    martin-s Well-Known Member

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    The only feedback I can give is to reiterate that you are continuing to register domains that aren't worth the reg fee, despite everyone's advice to the contrary.

    A 120 bet is a super heinz (look it up)

    But here the bigger problem is that bet120.com already exists and you shouldn't be trying to trade your domain off the back of their branding.

    I notice you cross-posted this thread:
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/bet120-com-vs-bet-120-com-vs-bet-120-com.834796/
     
  4. buzz75 Romania

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    I think its free for all to get/recived a opinion from other members on diffrent forum.
    What Trademark?Be serios - person who buy bet120.com it's a domainer + even make a trademark the rules are very simple - Trademark should be before registration not after etc.. so no problem.
    The point of this disucssion not value in money of bet-120 , bet120 etc..
    I say what is important for a domain name Google Monthly Avg searchor Free appraisal from difrentsite estibot etc...when i want to sell or register a domain name.
    Bet-120.com in my opinion worth nothing but like i say on namepros who knows?
     
  5. martin-s United Kingdom

    martin-s Well-Known Member

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    The important thing is being able to see how you can source a buyer based on a domain's value.
     
  6. buzz75 Romania

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    "based on a domain's value"and this is by Google AVG search or what say free appraisal?
    What its more important from this two?
    Because i have domain names (co.uk) that in Google search //region UK//Language English //AVG: is 1000/month but Estibot give appraisal 10k $
    or viceversa
    Google search //region UK//Language English //AVG is 210.000/month (exact search) but Estibot give me 35$ !
    So who tell the truth?
     
  7. martin-s United Kingdom

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    Google local search volume has some value, for sure. Not as much as it used to, but it will generally show commercial intent.

    Estibot, etc. is a total waste of time and I would not even consider their valuation as part of my process.

    1,000 searches a month could be valuable if a domain has commercial intent.

    Likewise 200,000 searches would be worth nothing if the intent isn't in any way possible to monetise.
     
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    bonusmedia Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Give up, the guy doesn't listen
     
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    Let him waste his pocket money...

    Sent from my Oneplus One
     
  10. RobM

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    Estibot is normally a font of accuracy. I can't believe it would give us a false figure like this. Mind you - you must really be having the last laugh - with all those exact searches per month you must be making fortunes. Ignore all the naysayers.
     
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  11. buzz75 Romania

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    I dont know that i ask members of Acorndomains.

    Data:

    Keyword: 0-000000000

    Avg. monthly searches (Sep 2012- Aug 2014): 201,000
    Competition: Low
    Suggested bid: $0.17
    Location: UnitedKingdom
    Language: English

    Keyword: 0000000000

    Avg. monthly searches (Sep 2012- Aug 2014): 1,220,000
    Competition: Low
    Suggested bid: $0.14
    Location: UnitedKingdom
    Language: English

    Please notice the difference between this 2 keyword's and results.
    My domain have a dash. We know the fact Google Adwords key Planer indexes ex:

    terra.com and t-e-r-r-a.com same exact search but this domain i have co.uk its diffrent not have the same result.

    Its not possible to register a domain name without dash 0 000000000: 2100000
    Toughether: 0000000000: 1,220,000

    I give a example domain what i owned its a short domain but i want register also similar with extension .uk
     
  12. buzz75 Romania

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    PS for 0000000000 owner ask min.5000 GBP (like i say domain have 1.220.000 exact search)
    Probably because it a blank domain undevelop
     
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  13. Leeroy

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    You clearly know it all so stop asking for views when all you do is argue. Most of the people on this forum make very good money from domain names, try taking on the advice, it can only serve you well.

     
  14. buzz75 Romania

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    "all you do is argue" Where you see i am argue?Leeroy - just ask that all - its forbiden?
     
  15. Leeroy

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    Read what the word "argue" means. You ask but don't listen. Listen and you will make some money.

    Don't go by what Google keyword tool says, it doesn't really matter, pick names that are commercial like pokerchips.co.uk. Go for .com, .de or .co.uk thats it i would say apart from your native ro.
     
  16. Leeroy

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    I (the wife) picked up onlinelettingagent yesterday, its a .co.uk got £450 out of it today, not the best search numbers but still a nice useful name.
     
  17. deluxedomains

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    all Leroy and others are trying to do is HELP you not waste your money.we all make mistakes when we start and some can be costly.its up to us if we listen to the advice we get given.domains are like life we never stop learning,its up to us if we want to learn or not.

    good luck in your sales
     
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    Ah. Seems you are using keyword searches wrong.
    Avg Monthly search for '0000000000' is 590.
     
  19. buzz75 Romania

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    Do you think i register 0-000000000?
    For the moment dont have money to register short version *.UK and domain not have rights and able to tell only next week what domain name is.
    But i think if owner of domain without dash ask min. 5000 GBP for undevlopment domain name maybe should ask min 1500 GBP ...even have CPC low but the niche its very very easy to monetize and make a website...
     
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  20. Leeroy

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    The best thing you can do to learn is sign up to Robs domainview.co.uk drop list service, pick what you like each day for a month or so and see if anyone catches them. The more info you have the better your chances.

    I was lucky when i started to have people who knew what they was talking about help me, i listened and have been full time in domain names for many years.

    BTW, the first domain name i got was ph0nes4u.co.uk :)
     
  21. RobM

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    I don't quite understand what you're saying but it's clear you are not using the tool correctly.
    0-000000000 Avg 10 monthly searches
    000000000 Avg 590 monthly searches
    You were saying hundreds of thousands. That's just plain wrong.
     
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