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    Hey everyone am making a business website soon can you all tell me what sites are best to start from i want something that has really good templates needs to be co.uk because i need to pay with sterling has to have good tools etc. thanks in advance :D
     
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    I don't understand what you're asking for?
     
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    Am asking for a good website building tool if that make's any sence lol =]
     
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    Ah right. Sorry mate not used any services like that before. I presume you've little to no html experience?
     
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    Yeah am new to all of this and i just wanna do something different and learn some new things no html experience like but i'll learn. =]
     
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    These website builders normally output very poor quality markup. I would invest your time in learning the underlying code and purchasing something like Dreamweaver.
     
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    Firestars thx for the link there's some really nice template's there but what am after is something like that but where you can make the website there and then and publish it if ya get me lol =]
     
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    Cheers for the info Dave i'll check dreamweaver out =]
     
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    Like what do you think to this website it's kinda crap that's why am selling it lol Crazy Love Shack it's a turnkey website or something like that the reason i don't like it because i wanna design a website my self don't just wanna buy one. =]
     
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    Online site builder, only really sitedepth worth looking at if your thinking big and serious, majority of the porn sites on the net use it, pc based look at netobject fusion. There are other site builders online, my hosting packages include something RV Site Builder, never used it myself. There are also tools like Joomla, Typ0, and CMS like PHPNuke etc, loads out there.

    I have a 2000 page site on netobject fusion thats turned into a proper ball ache now I need to convert to PHP so make sure you don't go for anything bigger than 32-50 pages with it :)

    Your better learning html, css and paintshop so you can have the control you need.
     
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    From what I've just seen from your site and without signing up (wife wouldn't be best pleased :)) it's not a bad site. Ok, it's table layout and the mark-up is dreadful, but it's pleasing to the eye and clear to navigate. Couldn't see any revenue streams though?

    The thing with turnkey sites is that they don't just instantly earn you money. It's simply a quick way to get a site running with possible potential, but you'll need to invest a lot of time (money) to actually start getting users / income from it. With such a competitive market, I'd maybe consider attacking something smaller perhaps?

    Going back to actually creating a website I would honestly consider learning the basics rather than using "site builders" / "tools".

    I know 123-reg do one, but like I mentioned previously I've never used them.

    Another tack you could perhaps take is something like word press or another similar CMS? You simple install the script, which will give you a simple web based editor to maintain the content. Popular ones like word press have a lot of template designs which you can purchase or use the common freebies.

    After rambling a bit, I'm off to bed now.
     
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    Skinner beat me to it with some good advice
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    "There are also tools like Joomla, Typ0, and CMS like PHPNuke etc, loads out there."

    Wordpress is just another example.
     
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    I don't like word press, its a tool that started out as one thing, but morphed rather badly into something else. Wordpress rocks for blogs and news but its not practical to make a site with.

    Personally if I was going to use on of these, I'd use Typ03 as its so very powerful, followed by Joomla/Drupal (coinflip time). If you want all in one neat looking with minimal fuss and uniformity Nuke is the way.

    Available with Fantastio Delux is

    Drupal
    Geeklog
    Joomla 1.5
    Joomla
    Mambo Open Source
    PHP-Nuke
    phpWCMS
    phpWebSite
    Post-Nuke
    Siteframe
    TYPO3
    Xoops

    A few to look at that.
     
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    On the other hand...

    ...If you are thinking of learning html i would start at W3Schools Online Web Tutorials.

    Doesn't have everything you need there, but has some very good tutorials and try it yourself examples etc.

    -Ben
     
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