right ok... i've started to create a backordering system (d.w it wont beat all yours) and since i havn't forked up £400 to nominet for membership and access to there dac service, i'm a little stuck, (i will purchase when i've finished creating the software,) doesn't make sence does it. But i'm in need of something similar to the dac, which i can connect to like a whois service in telnet and i can just see if the domains will send and if it will give me back a result. Beacuse atm. i have 1) been able to connect to dac.nic.uk 2043 (but access been disallowed, as im not a member) 2)been able to call data from a text file i will add the domain(s ) into, and now i'm eager to see if the sending of the domains will work. so any suggestions of a basic whois server that allows telent access.. i've tried whois.nic.uk 2043 but doesn't seem to connect?