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Discussion in 'Domain Appraisals' started by twostepsbehind, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. twostepsbehind United States

    twostepsbehind Active Member

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    Hello,

    What would be a sensible price to ask for to sell geo domains? - serving a populations of 25k to 50k

    (.uk domains)

    Thanks
     
  2. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member

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    I think it massively depends on the geo and whether its hyper local such as a big town or city, or whether they are counties. County based geos, especially of the .uk I actually don't see as that valuable from a resell point of view, for example I'd love to get hold of a few surrounding counties, but they wouldnt be for projects which could justify a sensible outlay, so id rather use a longer tail domain if it meant the expensve.

    Big City Geo's on the other hand, easier to monetise, have that prestiege so could be snapped up for bragging rights and monitisation. Obviously just my opinion. I'm sure others disagree, especially those with big geo portfolios :D
     
  3. stitchbob

    stitchbob Active Member

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    The .uk geos have one advantage over their co.uk counterparts - managed well, they can become an SLD in their own right. For a directory site, that means your customers can have example.brighton.uk which might have more appeal to certain clients than co.uk, especially if you're working with local branches of a national company, or a name that's already taken.

    I've had my eye on some of them for exactly that purposes. However, I'm not invested enough in the idea to pay the kind of money that GEO's usually command, so I'm just going to take my chances. Obviously I'll be throwing my hat into the ring for Manchester.
     
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    diablo Well-Known Member

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    Better check as I'm exhausted and not thinking straight, but my understanding was .uk domains could not be used in this way.
     
  5. Ryan Ewen

    Ryan Ewen Active Member

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    Disagree - the market will change once people realise the SEO benefits of .uk versus .co.uk - this may be accelerated if google.co.uk becomes google.uk - similar to nominet.

    We have split test 100+ domains and .uk outperforms by a mile.

    just saying!
     
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  6. stitchbob

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    I'm not aware of any such restrictions on what you can do with .uk domains specifically. Bear in mind I'm not talking about setting yourself up as a registrar and selling hosting etc for subdomains of your .uk, but as far as I'm aware, there's nothing stopping you setting up manchester.uk as a directory site, and setting up subdomains like northernquarter.manchester.uk or even more specific ones like affleckspalace.manchester.uk
     
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  7. martin-s United Kingdom

    martin-s Well-Known Member

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    Go on, tell us more. Because this goes against 99% of what I believe in.
     
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    dee Well-Known Member

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    Can you expand please ? This sounds pretty interesting
     
  9. Ryan Ewen

    Ryan Ewen Active Member

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    We purchased a lot of domains (perhaps 50-100) and popped 2,500 words on each site (a different 2,500 for .uk and .co.uk)
    .uk always outranked co.uk

    We also tested an aged domain name versus a new .uk version -
    An example is here: https://www.taxifinance.uk - the .uk is 20 ish years old

    .uk was around top 20 for first year of launch. .co.uk version was 150 in google. Since then we redirected the .co.uk domain to the .uk.

    We have 500 websites in 80 countries around the world and .uk outranks .co.uk in every situation.
     
  10. Ryan Ewen

    Ryan Ewen Active Member

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    Buy the hype, sell the news.

    You are correct - they are hard to sell. Acquire them now cheap and you will see the value as the market changes
     
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  11. twostepsbehind United States

    twostepsbehind Active Member

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    Plus with all the new gTLDs, simpler, easier to digest domains will come out on top

    As a domainer, .co.uk looks obsolete now...
     
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  12. Ryan Ewen

    Ryan Ewen Active Member

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    Great - so you have split test domains yourself to have such a strong opinion. Didn't think so. Probably some 60 year hater. Get a life
     
  13. Ryan Ewen

    Ryan Ewen Active Member

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    I said it because that is my experience - which i have seen with my own eyes. I don't resell domains so have nothing to gain from saying this. I have personally built 500+ websites - you can take what i say with a pinch of salt but there is no agenda
     
  14. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member

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    Don't poke the beast Robert, more often than not "research" is best kept to yourself.
     
  15. Ryan Ewen

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    This is a place for sharing information - i have a job and am very successful - but thanks for the tip
     
  16. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member

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    Just to note, I wasn't being condecending.
     
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    Can I just add, suffix is irrelevant when it comes to SEO, as long as it isn't super difficult to type, look like spam, hyphens etc. the only thing that truly matters, is CONTENT.

    People are indoctrinated to believe .co.uk will rank better than .uk, wrong. You're just not seeing .uk ranking (much) yet as nobody has adopted it. And that my friends, is the big question.

    Will it be adopted, as much as the .co.uk?

    I bet if I took a competitive .uk domain now and put a website on it, focused 12 weeks intensively creating quality SEO articles and optimising the site every single day, it would be ranking just fine.

    Any SEO company worth their salt would tell you exactly the same thing. https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2015/07/googles-handling-of-new-top-level.html
     
  18. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like every 2012 ghost writer whom are now under the trendy guise of "content marketers"....because they can.
     
  19. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

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    Tell me I'm wrong?
     
  20. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member

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    Your wrong...content alone, like any other variable alone is useless. Doesn't matter if you've got the best content in the world, if your site doent have the authority to maintain and follow that content through, it's never going to be seen (or won't be as prominant as it really could be). SEO hasnt really changed, trends come and go and some factors change weight ( such as content ) but ultimately the basic's still apply.
     
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