Domainlore blog

Mine was cancelled today for his ukdroplists !

Ive never been happy to lose out on a domain but always respected someone who spent more time and effort on their script, server hosting etc.
Its always been the nature of the game. Little tweaks here and there, searching for anomalies of Nominet drop cycles has always been challenging but the last few days have been a complete piss take!

 

I get roughly 15 cold calls a week, mostly from India, and the inevitable emails on top of that. When I'm in hospital and these calls start coming it REALLY pisses me off. The narrative on the link beneath the link (seo-gold) really flags up this cold calling again, and gets interesting on the 2nd seo-gold page. One of the spammers in the office seems to have served a prison sentence for embezzlement. Nice.

I have nothing for or against the people involved, because I don't know them, but Nominet needs to sort out its dropping domains because it's chaos. Laissez-faire and almost anything goes, or so it seems to me.

 

From his FAQ:

Any backorder bids placed before 1st Jan 2020 that were over £1000 will not go to auction - they will be allocated to whoever had the highest backorder bid at droptime. This does not apply to bids placed from 1st Jan 2020 onwards, ie from now on.

So presumably they were booked before 1st Jan. Lucky catches for someone. They were listed in the HC console as having bids of “£1000+ (no auction)” so it was known beforehand that they wouldn’t be auctioned.

 

Likewise.

I’ve spoke to Rob and he’s said he isn’t returning to Acorn because of all this. He has nothing to prove. Apparently.

@bluerock I am looking. Which is why I am uncertain.

 

@Tool.Domains are also bang at it, they have dozens of accounts they created back for the inital release of RoR domains, They have been using those accounts yesterday and today to grab as many domains as possible...

All catches get updated instantly to parkingcrew.net nameservers...

@Tool.Domains - Explain why you feel the need to operate all these tags to catch ROR domains using the exact same pattern, you use x amount of tags until around 8am then switch to new tags and then switch again..


Some of there tags here:

Digital Web Services Group LTD [Tag = DIGITALWEB]
Tulang EOOD [Tag = TULANG]
NORWAY NAME REGISTRATION LIMITED [Tag = NNRLTD]
Tool Domains Ltd t/a Edoms.com [Tag = EDOMS]
Ivelina Georgieva [Tag = IGEORGIEVA] (Staff member at @Tool.Domains you can see her linked in profile here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivelina-georgieva-706761188/)
Nedko Nedkov [Tag = NEDKOV]


Update:

Antoniya Pavlova [Tag = APAVLOVA]
Simeon Chakalov [Tag = SCHAKALOV]
Ina Ilieva [Tag = IILIEVA]
Petar Ivanov [Tag = PIVANOV]
Tactics Internet Limited [Tag = TACTICS]
SCHAKALOV - Simeon Chakalov
HKOSTOVA - Hristina Kostova
MIXACTIVITY - Tatyana Karataneva
MDOBCHEVA - Maria Dobcheva
IGEORGIEVA - Ivelina Georgieva
SPANEVA - Severina Paneva
TOOLDOMAINS - Tool Domains Ltd
SUPERSTOR - SUPER STORE BG LTD
Digital Web Services Group LTD [Tag = DIGITALWEB]
Tulang EOOD [Tag = TULANG]
NORWAY NAME REGISTRATION LIMITED [Tag = NNRLTD]
Tool Domains Ltd t/a Edoms.com [Tag = EDOMS]
Ivelina Georgieva [Tag = IGEORGIEVA] (Staff member at @Tool.Domains you can see her linked in profile here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivelina-georgieva-706761188/)
Nedko Nedkov [Tag = NEDKOV]
Page Rules LTD [Tag = PAGERULES]

____________________________________________________________________



Domain name:
hyper.uk

Data validation:
Nominet was not able to match the registrant's name and/or address against a 3rd party source on 01-Jul-2019

Registrar:
Simeon Chakalov [Tag = SCHAKALOV]

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 17-Jan-2020
Expiry date: 17-Jan-2021
Last updated: 17-Jan-2020

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
ns1.parkingcrew.net
ns2.parkingcrew.net


Plus many more...


looking.uk

Data validation:
Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 11-Oct-2019

Registrar:
Tool Domains Ltd t/a Edoms.com [Tag = EDOMS]
URL: https://gtld.io

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 18-Jan-2020
Expiry date: 18-Jan-2021
Last updated: 18-Jan-2020

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
ns1.parkingcrew.net
ns2.parkingcrew.net

 

I noticed that, but it struck me as odd because they are not invisible

 

Its a piss take and people are taking it to a whole different level

 

It seems odd to me that Nominet are approving all of these tags, the process of applying for a tag is not exactly straight forward.... you have to meet certain criteria. For example, a website with terms and conditions.

These would have to be unique for each tag (with it's own quota). Or perhaps they;re just exploiting the cache and have separate tags to make it look like it's not just one/two people operating them all?

 

Those tags i just posted are from June / July when ROR was initially released, obviously they must have created a load of accounts to try and get as many of the ROR domains as possible and now we are in the 2nd main wave they have popped their heads up again.

 

Ben the criteria does not mean you need a website with terms and stuff if you only want to be a self managed member it is a simple form though they would still need to pay for membership to use the dac. Seems quite a coincidence that tool domains using robs system (surprise surprise) who knows how to use multiple ip addresses with a route table to send dac traffic where ever the fuck he wants. Even if Rob does not control the customers of his he must be aware of them being part of the same team of people. He let kungfukake continue and catch paul.uk this morning despite knowing the tag is linked to webcon and shall. This goes beyond greed, beyond morals and what respect Rob had in this industry has quickly been erroded by his pursuit of money (desperate). It the fellow was smart enough he would realise that flooding the market with domains for quick sale has killed prices and he would have propably made more dominating on his own, but then he can not because he needs all your tag dac juice to run his catching machine (for himself)

 

I was discussing Paul.uk with an Acorn member here called Paul, and it was obvious there would be interest and competition for that one, and lo:

New Registrant this morning is KUNGFUJAKE aka Jake Waller.

No law against anyone trying to catch domain names. Question is, have Nominet rules been followed?

Second question is: do Nominet enforce those rules?

 

You can easily see the connection with the Tool Domain /BG outfit as the Domain Registrant ID (DRID) in the source code is the same:



VGAVRAILOVA https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Vesela/Gavrailova
SCHAKALOV https://www.linkedin.com/people/sea...=people-guest_people-search-bar_search-submit
PIVANOV https://tool.domains/team/petar-ivanov
SPANEVA https://www.linkedin.com/today/author/severina-paneva-a0692367
HKOSTOVA https://ar.linkedin.com/in/hristina...st_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click
MDOBCHEVA https://bg.linkedin.com/in/maria-do...st_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click
IGEORGIEVA https://bg.linkedin.com/in/ivelina-...st_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click
APAVLOVA https://bg.linkedin.com/in/antoniya...st_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click

 

Does the resulting matching DRID mean that they are linked by Nominet so can not use separte DAC? Can you find out the same information for Rob and his band of many merry men?

 

It's a basic matter of rules.

If no Nominet rules have been contravened, move on, nothing to see, you've all been beaten at the game.

If specific rules have been broken, and you can detail them, then one of you can go to Nominet and request the names are suspended immediately (or I will). But you need to set out the exact and clear-cut rules that have been broken and evidence. It can't be vague.

Ideally the tags involved then get suspended, and the names obtained returned are suspended/killed as well.

I know people here are sceptical about whether Nominet would even care enough to enforce the rules, but my experience with ICANN/Afilias/.info taught me that if you go public enough, you can pressure people into action (as was the case back then), but you have to be clear about the rules.

You need to detail it all (taking care with facts or you get sued) in a website, then circulate it to interested outlets (The Register for example) or the BBC, and don't stop there. Build up more and more evidence.

* * * * *

Downside: you may find that this will alienate Nominet from continuing with name-dropping at all. You may know where I stand on that.

But this is the UK's vital infrastructure and communities involved in all this: the DNS is a vital resource, and isn't just some, I don't know, cosmetics company or something.

Rules, if they exist and are relevant here, MUST be enforced.

Naturally for many or most people it will be CBA. So: what specific rules and words (in Registry-Registrar agreements) are being contravened?

 

Sorry, the DRID is used by parkingcrew to determine the domain owner of each domain, so its in the source/html code:

 

Basically means all the domains are listed in the same Parkingcrew account!

 

I see Jake Waller has changed his LinkedIn now lol
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jake-waller-80aa1916a

Nick WBS posted on the Nominet forum to say:

“It is a member's responsibility to notify Nominet of any connection to other members, but we do our own audits too. Where we receive notification or become aware that members are connected we will link them. We do investigate complaints regarding breaches of our AUPs and take action as appropriate, but I don't think that's a Member Code of Conduct question, more contractual compliance.”

As members I think we should take him up on the offer and all report the connected tags. Anyone got a complete list of connected tags?

 

“It is a member's responsibility to notify Nominet of any connection to other members"

Hmm I wonder how many times that has happened?

 

It's always necessary to be forensic. I'm just trying to get my head round the issues, and draw on UKBackorders own terms and conditions (impartially, facts not character slurs):

"Auction Catching and Multiple Tags
Having multiple tags with individual quotas is a breach of Nominet's terms and they would never allow it. As such anyone who signs up, to use their tag to catch for ukbackorder auction, is assumed to have been vetted by Nominet and approved. We have no say in their policies, methods, or approval system. If Nominet bring to our attention any incidents of multiple tag ownership we reserve the right to suspend or terminate any, or all, of the tags involved - an explanation email will be sent. We are not reponsible nor liable, nor will we be held accountable, for Nominet's decisions now, or in the future, nor for anyone breaching their agreements. This applies to tags signed up for auction catching and you will be asked to acknowledge this during sign-up. If there are any issues by anyone with any of the tags chasing for auction they are requested, not to contact us but, to contact Nominet directly. We will always adhere to their decisions."

My reading of Nominet's rules suggests that "Multiple Channel Partner tags are allowed".

However, command limits are set on a registrar, and commands through multiple tags held by the same registrar accumulate to the same limit: "If exceeded, all tags for that registrar will be blocked from making new registrations and from using the check command for 24 hours."

"Linked tags: This policy is covered by our standard anti-avoidance clause, which may mean that we link tags together when calculating the above limits."

But the problem arises if registrars/tags present as separate, but are actually all working together:

"Anti-avoidance and Connected Persons - Introduction
One way in which the Acceptable Use Policy Principles can be compromised is if we believe users are separate, when in fact they are acting together (and, for example, pooling their limits)."

and

"they have social, family, ownership or business links (directly or indirectly) which mean that they either:

1. do not appear to operate truly independently of one another, or
2. it could reasonably be assumed that they will not operate truly independently of one another"

and

"For the purposes of (3) there is a strong presumption that:

• group companies (or other businesses) are connected to other businesses in the group;
• a company and its employees/officers/partners are connected to one another"

And the process for complaining requires use of their complaints procedure:
"We also have a complaints procedure for registrants to use if they wish to complain about a registrar, or which a member or registrar can use if they wish to make us aware of another registrar who is in breach of the registrar agreement."

 

Nominet can also just search for the following name servers added to the zone:

Name servers:
caught.with.hostedchasing.com domain.at.ukbackorder.com

Then investigate the tags involved to see how many DACs those members have each.