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Nominet announces new policy consultation for expiring .UK domains

Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by Acorn Newsbot, Jul 16, 2020.

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    signature Well-Known Member

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    A lot of us were registrars in 1999 but more interested in .COM than .co.uk and not wise to how valuable these .co.uk will be.

    Also not many catching was going on then, its all registering and mostly by signed emails.

    You could have been registrar since the 90s with only a handful of domains to show for it.
     
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    signature Well-Known Member

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    @Siusaidh
    Thanks for the comments, I signed the petitions because to a lot of people, this is their only income and taking that away just like that is callous.

    Also, Nominet should not make secondary market another income stream, they already run a monopoly and adding secondary market to it should not be allowed.

    Some of us here will remember the fight in the .COM space in the 90s when Network Solutions have the monopoly to .COM and the secondary market. .COM use to cost about £120 for 2 years and many new registrars have to fight for this to stop. I think we are at that stage now when a Registry wanted to have monopoly of everything to do with .UK name space.

    Nominet already have income enough to run the registry many times over and if the directors wanted to do diversify they should resign and setup a new company. Trying to move into cyber security that is dominated already by big players.

    I cant see CyGlass going to be a successful large company, the success I can see here is been bought again by a bigger company like Amazon or Azure or similar company. Most of their services is already free with most cloud companies and no need to buy their services at all.

    If Nominet want to be a cyber security company, they should stop using registry income, separate it from Nominet and lets see how it will survive.

    Lastly, how can Nominet justify a salary increase of £300k in one year to the CEO, what have Nominet achieved to justify this? Also all directors remunerations increase by 60% in one year. Why and what for?

    Nominet have made members and many small registrars irrelevant, this is not right and at this rate, members will leave anyway since there will be no reason or value in membership.

    I am not sure about the members figures few years ago, but I think it was about 4000 at its peak and if Nominet continue this way, members will leave, may be this is their intention.

    Lets get the signature to 100 and see what happen.

    On another note, lets enjoy our Sunday, I can't wait for Chelsea to clinch champions league position today. ManU and Leicester fans, nothing personal :).
     
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  3. Siusaidh

    Siusaidh Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why a Director gets paid about £1632 a day (CEO even more) when a nurse saving people's lives gets paid about £108 a day.

    If I get elected, my daughter's children's centre in Uganda will get the windfall. Their poverty and deprivation are pitiful. I'm perfectly happy with what I've got.

    Good luck this afternoon - but don't underestimate Wolves! My own team, Arsenal, have the Cup Final next Saturday, that's our only hope of European Football.

    In Fantasy Football, there was a league set up here on this forum. I am currently trailing in 60th position out of 70 teams. I don't know how other people here are doing.

    Things are much closer in a personal league with my son. With just today's matches to go, after a whole season:

    Son: 1706 points

    Me: 1703 points

    I badly need Mason Mount NOT to score as my son has him, and (apologies) I need Jimenez to score a hat trick this afternoon against Chelsea. I don't mind if Chelsea win 5-3 though!
     
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  4. 3gmedia

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    Is that before tax?

    I do believe nurses should get at least an extra £10k a year.

    Doctors/consultants & Gps get enough, my better half works for a consultant & gp who quite often leave their wage slips around the house, they certainly get paid enough. :rolleyes:
     
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    Siusaidh Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's before tax. I get paid a bit more because I'm a Senior Clinician. My pay in a year is identical to what I will be paid as a Director for 23 days' work.

    I'd agree with you, that £10,000 a year more would be a fair and modest adjustment for basic band 5 nurses.

    However, my primary concern is that Nominet, as a company, is run with integrity, with the big registrars kept at arms length, to avoid appearance of bias and undue influence.
     
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    Thanks, we can't underestimate wolves, they need win to keep their current position and they don't concede goals easily. I will take 5-3 to Chelsea too :D, so you get your hat trick but a draw is good enough for us.
     
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    Strange thing happened on Friday when i tried to vote, the online form didnt have me listed as a member of Nominet, i've sent an email so waiting for a reply.
     
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    That's because voting hasn't opened yet. so not sure where you found the form. "Voting will run from Tuesday 1 September 2020 until 1pm on Friday 18 September 2020. Your voting email will be sent to you on the day voting opens."
     
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  9. Nigel

    Nigel Well-Known Member

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    now up to 41 signatures - only takes a minute to sign

    now 50!
     
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    The end of drop catching?
     
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    Thank you. No,I definitely don’t consider I have said anything inappropriate. If you think I have, feel free to tell me over private message. I think you’ll find it hard to pin down what you actually think it was.

    “Interrogated” is a tad strong. Questioned about you candidacy but you don’t seem to want to answer many of the questions!

    You have the opportunity to send him an email, attend and question at the AGM or attend and question at the forthcoming virtual roundtable if it’s to do with the current consultation.

    You had the opportunity to appear in your own video, but you didn’t do. You also had the opportunity to record your answers to questions but you seem to be choosing not to. Why don’t you appear to want people to see what you’re really like, choosing instead to hide as far as possible behind a keyboard?

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Is anyone aware of any commercial activity involving Susannah and the domain name industry?

    I’ve not insulted anybody but I’ll be sure to make it clear when if I am doing. Please tell me by Private Message where specifically you are sure that I’ve been throwing insults. I don’t think you’ll be able.

    Do you mean registrar or registrant because there was only one registrar in the late 1990’s (Network Solutions). Were you referring to being a Nominet member and tag holder?

    Who are these “lot of people” you cite that this is “their only income”? Please tell us WHO?

    They don’t run a monopoly because .COM is a viable competitor with double digit numbers of registrations in the same markets as .uk. All registries are the sole providers of their extensions, as can only be the case, but it is not the only viable choice.

    Can you cite any online source that details this? Any document? Any news article anywhere that you can evidence to corroborate what you claim to remember from over twenty years ago, please?

    Different issue. Niche produces can gain transaction in new arenas if they are ahead of the time.

    I highly doubt you understand the products or areas that CyGlass’s products belong in and I wouldn’t expect you to without having researched it.

    It’s Nominet’s income, not registry income. Do you tell Tesco what they may do with the money they receive from your weekly shop?

    Ask the Chairman. He’ll be happy to explain. In a nutshell, because the CEO is worth his salary and the Remuneration Committee don’t want him to be poached because they’re playing him below market. Do you have reason to believe that wouldn’t happen?

    No Nominet haven’t. The annual membership fee hasn’t gone up. If some members leave, because £100 A YEAR, is too much for them, maybe they have more pressing issues that they’re hiding.

    If a lot of the proxy members leave because there’s no need for them to exist, is that a negative?

    Simple. They don’t. If you don’t understand this, you might want to rethink how much time you might be able to commit to the position. It can and does sometime exponentially increase beyond the suggested number of days.
     
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    It is hard to pin down specifically, I think most of your posts just kind of "smell". I think it's like the dude says, "You're not wrong Walter, you're just an arsehole".

    Do you talk like this openly to colleagues or other people at your place of work?

    I'm not an expert at interpreting the subtle aggressions, presumptions and slights you make, but if I worked with you, I'd be raising concerns with superiors or a HR department.
     
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    What he does, If it's not pure gas lighting it's certainly a close variant
     
  14. DesD

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    @mcrick Are you currently a director of Nominet?
     
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    @Admin i believe @mcrick may be a member of Nominet’s board as has been suggested elsewhere on the forum.

    If he chooses not to answer my direct question on this topic above, then I’d encourage you to ban his IP address from accessing the forum.

    I believe he’s trolling a candidate who is potentially running for a seat currently held by a colleague of his - a clear conflict of interest in my opinion.

    I find his behaviour disruptive and arrogant and I don’t think this is the time for members to be distracted in this way.

    The clock is ticking on your income streams.

    I will also be bringing this thread and others to the attention of Beverley Hamblet-Bowes, Nominet’s HR Director.
     
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  16. Derek Portugal

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    How about the conflict of interest of said candidate abusing their staff position on a domaining forum to delete other peoples posts re Nominet policies?
     
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    Are you bipolar?
     
  18. Derek Portugal

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    Do you think its reasonable for a prospective Nominet paid staff member to be using their position as a mod here to be deleting Nominet critical posts?
     
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    I can’t speak to that as I don’t have any specifics.

    However, I note Susannah stated her intention right at the start to moderate the threads she created with the intention of keeping discussion on point.

    That said, in my experience of community management (significant) this was never going to work as an approach for the suspicion of what you suggest.

    I understand Susannah figured this out quite quickly and stepped back from moderating.

    All of that said, I believe that Susannah has been quite upfront and consistent about her reasons for running and in doing so it’s absolutely right that she should be challenged. Further, in using a community with anonymous members as a platform, then she can’t expect to know who everyone is - nor has she requested this.

    However, if any of the participants in this discussion are conflicted in the way I suggest above, then they are obliged to do so under their real name. To not do so brings this entire process into disrepute in my opinion.

    I have a very serious issue with the way @mcrick chose to ‘out’ Susannah as gender diverse in discussion. It was passive trolling of the worst kind and simply not acceptable to me.
     
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    yep. Probably.